On 09/27/2012 01:01 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 26. September 2012, 13:03:57 schrieb Bruce Ferrell:
On 09/26/2012 12:49 PM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
That's very unfortunate for those of us who also use it on servers as such use cases seem to get less and less testing and attention. Ditto. I took over servers running SuSE in 2002 and had been running Redhat/Fedora/Slackware previous to that. openSUSE is my distribution of choice for servers, laptops and Desktops. In my opinion (worth what youing payed for it), it has been much better put together than it's nearest competition and much more manageable, without regard to marketing/popularity. Tghe last couple of releases have been rocky, at best, and made it more difficult for me to support as a choice for/to my customers. Are you refering to openSUSE or SLE?
I guess openSUSE since this is an openSUSE list. So isn't it true that only server users can test openSUSE's server capabilities? If those are not tested well enough it just means that the server users at some point started to neglect testing and expect a solid server release nonetheless.
Since you get openSUSE for free I expect especially those users who use it in a business environment, i.e. use it to earn money in one way or another, to contribute their bit to the distro, e.g. by testing.
Sven If I'm installing to a server, to a desktop or a laptop, I'm testing. If I'm using it as a personal tool and it doesn't work, I'm testing and if I report there are problems and I get snarky/bad/useless responses to those reports I'm less likely to "promote" the use of openSUSE. Check the archives... There are plenty of reports and plenty of just plain nasty responses.
Were I the only one getting those responses, I'd take it personally, but truth be known, there's enough traffic reporting problems being met with "bad" answers that it points not to a code problem but an attitude problem... And those I haven't a clue of how to fix. All I do know is there used to be a time when using a Linux distro meant we were part of something that was about offering choices, not cramming someones idea of the "right" way to do things down peoples throat. My opinion, systemd = bad. The journal = bad, pulse, not so cool either (in fact MOST of the stuff out of freedesktop, not too too cool... If I wanted an Ubuntu like experience, I'd use Ubuntu... Or windows ). So... I'll trow it back to you, you get the kernel for free... Got a "right" to complain when somehting doesn't work? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org