Dave Plater <dplater.list@gmail.com> Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:15:01 +0300:
On 17/06/2016 19:20, Dmitriy Perlow wrote:
Dave Plater <dplater.list@gmail.com> Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:29:18 +0300:
On 17/06/2016 15:09, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Wrt documentation so far we have https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:How_to_contribute_to_Leap but that's about it. I just read the link and at the bottom it states that both openSUSE:Leap:42.1 and 42.2 will be %suse_version 1315, is this intended? Can't Leap:42.2 at least be 1316 or better still 1335. SLES has a different %suse_version for SP2. Dave P
Leap 42.2 will provide almost the same packages as 42.1 and even 13.2 f.e. gcc48 etc. %suse_version > 1320 will cause unneeded build errors imho.
So openSUSE:Leap42.2 will become a stagnated distribution with no actual need to update from 42.1? What is the actual purpose of Leap? It's certainly going away from the old openSUSE distributions. My internet is expensive and my pockets are lean so I can't afford to run a bleeding edge Tumbleweed nor can I afford the time to fix breakages. I will eventually end up not being able to maintain most of my packages nor fix bugs for them properly. I'm already unable to install blender because it now only runs on python3-3.5. This situation will eventually force the use of snap packages as discussed in another thread. I use Leap and I'm happy with it and have been with openSUSE for quite a while. The first linux distribution I installed was 6.4 IIRC and I became actively involved in 10.1 but now I feel as if I'm being pushed away. I was looking forward to Leap:42.2 because I can't update python3 from 3.4 to 3.5 as too many packages depend upon it. It's been in Tumbleweed for a couple of months now, how long does it take to consider it stable. Gcc can stay at 48 as can most of the base packages. I don't care about the kernel either, I can't afford new hardware anyway.
Dave P
As for me new software releases require C++14 and at least gcc 4.9 with clang or clean gcc 5+. For example a month ago leechcraft package got the last update for distributions with gcc 4.8. Now dirty hacks at OBS are required to use not default compiler. Of course this crunch is available only for home projects. There will no be any update for 13.1-leap42 from oss & network. LC is my favorite desktop app that is why leap can't be my favorite desktop distribution. On the other hand I have nvidia card, noveau is bugware for me and I don't like nvidia run installers. That is why TW also can't be my favorite desktop distribution. -- Best regards, Dmitriy Perlow R&D chemical engineer Lekpharm JLLC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org