Am 26. Dezember 2019 22:22:41 MEZ schrieb Stasiek Michalski <hellcp@opensuse.org>:
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 21:56, Eric Schirra <ecsos@opensuse.org> wrote:
Okay. For your requirements it's right that all packages exists in newest version. I personal use not tumbleweed. But i can understand upstream, that they not always use the newest version or have time to test and migrate quickly. I use Leap and build some applications which i want in newest version
for myself in obs. But perfectly where, when it would exists a mix of tumbleweed and Leap. Ground with stable and perhaps older packages versions and with all applications in new version (desktop-apps and Server Apps). This would be perfect for me.
I might recommend to you Flatpak and podman in that case. Flathub [1] provides the newest versions of the desktop applications you might need in Flatpak, and OBS [2] and other registries build containers which you can then use with podman.
As a bonus, Flatpak uses bubblewrap and portals, so the applications have less access to your data and devices than standard RPM packages, like the standard permissions system on Android and iOS.
podman outdoes docker, while using the same container format, so you aren't losing on the switch, while gaining a little bit better performance and flexibility.
And the most important of all, they don't mess with anything else in your installation, so you don't have to worry about version mismatches and unsupported repositories. Also takes away the blame for the problems away from us ;)
That's the only reasonable way to get Leap with the new packages in a way supported by somebody for free though. As far as I know there are no other plans for up-to-date packages in Leap, even though it has been suggested for quite a while.
Is that really your serious? Is this the future of distributions and especially OpenSuse? You shoot you into your own knees. I do not want new repositories / applications. I would like to have a single package manager as well as. In addition, and the docker was never thought of. Not to mention stability issues and resource waste. And also from other parts of libraries. And not least of security risks. And if I want this all (security risks, multiple existing libraries, resource waste) I can take windows :-( Regards Eric -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org