-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0902041248160.5741@nimrodel.valinor> On Friday, 2009-01-16 at 16:33 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday, 2009-01-16 at 13:40 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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If you dont want to help then let it be. Then i have to do it...
It is not that I do not want, is that I can't, I don't know how, and that I'm not the end user, IMO: it is the distributor who is the end user; ie, you (novell). If you want me to, then you will have to hand-hold me through the process, which will be more wasteful for you, I think. If this is generalized for all bugzilla reporting, I'd have to register to dozens of upstream mailists upstream, and register to dozens of bugzilla systems upstream, for which I don't have the knowledge nor time. I think that it should be the package mantainer in the distro who collects, triages and reports upstream those bugs worth reporting, as he/she is the person that has the most up to date knopwledge of each particular package. If this is the intention for us, then I'l have to stop reporting bugzillas completely.
And I still think that /etc/cron.daily/ is a SuSE feature, as the /usr/lib/cron/run-crons is "Copyright (c) 1998-2001 SuSE GmbH Nuernberg".
Dude. I already told you that this cronjob comes from the smolt project. This has nothing to do with the cron package or its contents. And its not even the cronjobs fault as you noted in you initial report. Its the whole setup that is flawed.
I don't know what "dude" means in this context :-? Yes, the cron job comes from them, but SUSE can change it for the distribution and place a file in /etc/cron.daily/ or /etc/cron.monthly/ instead. AFAIK, Fedora may not have this feature, they might be using anacron for all I know. How will I argue this point to them?
There is also a /etc/init.d/smolt service, purpose unknown, and dissabled by default.
This triggers if data gets sent by smoltSendProfile or not.
Undocumented.
smoltSendProfile -h | grep -A 1 -- -c -c, --checkin this is an automated checkin, will only run if the "smolt" service has been started
Thats the manpage for "smoltSendProfile", not the documentation for "/etc/init.d/smolt". It does this: ] start) ] echo -n $"Enabling monthly Smolt checkin: " ] touch "$lockfile" ] rc_status -v ] ;; ] stop) and I have no idea what that means and does. Again, how could argue this point upstream if I don't know enough about it?
Do you mean that if I manually send data somehow it runs insserv on smolt?
No. There is a cronjob that runs "smoltSendProfile -c". It only sends data if there is a specific file (/var/lock/subsys/smolt). The smolt "service" does nothing else than to touch or remove that file.
Which means that I do not and can not know how smolt really works or is supposed to work, and thus, I can not argue these points upstream. I don't have the knowledge.
(1) The link for reporting upstream is <https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/report>.
It says: «Note: See TracReports for help on using and creating reports.»
That help text in unintelible for me [...] Im sorry, but that sent me running for my life, and I'm not going back there. :-/
You need a login there. Like you need a login in our bugzilla. Nothig that special...
It is special for me. I may be dumb some times. So? O:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmJgXIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UwMQCcCicl669fiMHZ0ySVos0njWzF MigAnRA7ySM/ClpsX1Uxx3kOPVGZC0+n =Grrv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----