On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:35:28 +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 04:32:26PM -0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 10:35:06 +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote: Using the open source nVidia driver doesn't include CUDA support (to my knowledge),
That would be news to me. It's just the kernel part. It shouldn't affect CUDA. But it's true that only Turing/Ampere (2018 and newer) is supported. by the open driver. I guess you have an older card.
I have a 3090ti. So if you mean "less than the current card", no, I have a fairly recent card. Looking at the dependencies for the cuda libraries, it looks like there's a dependency on 'cuda-drivers', which itself has a dependency on nvidia- glG05, x11-video-nvidia-G05, nvidia-compute-G05, and nvidia-gfx-G05-kmp- default - so it seems that the nVidia CUDA support depends on the proprietary driver.
so that's not really an option for me. I don't use Secure Boot, so that's how I get around the issue, but for those who need secure boot and the proprietary driver, breaking the system without a warning seems like a bad option.
I agree again.
With daily TW updates, how many people actually read blogs that describe the changes in detail?
Well, there wasn't any blog mentioning this. :-(
Yeah. My point is, though, that telling people running TW "read something that's not part of the actual update utility output", especially something that's on a mailing list, blog, buried in release notes (which we all know nobody really reads on a regular basis) is just bad form - just like the changes that broke (for some people) sudo a few months back. If we make changes that have the potential to break someone's system, we should do them the courtesy of telling them with specificity (not just "TW updates might break your system" - that's 100% accurate and 0% useful) what changes are being made (or proposed to be made) and give an option to avoid the update. There will always be unintended consequences that get missed - but in a case like this (or the sudo change), that was a completely foreseeable issue. (I know you're in agreement based on what you said previously - obviously, this isn't directed at you - just a general line of thinking :) ) -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits