Folks: Once again, when "we" in TW hit these "balloon upgrades" when thousands of packages are dropped into zypper to maintain the system, and those of us with older hardware (circa '12) run into time consuming issues for our geriatric machines to be able to process them . . . . We get into "discussions" on the forum about what exactly does "rolling" mean vs "new distribution release for total rebuild of the system" . . . and during those interactions it came to me that perhaps Leap 15.5 could be the "mule" for developing the more traditional "rolling" platform, similar to Manjaro, where the basic system is upgraded/maintained . . . generally a couple hundred packages every other week or so . . . ??? Kernel and browser freshness is generally all that an end user such as myself would need, to support his DE of choice. As of late the "protectors of TW" are raging about how "we need to upgrade gcc completely to maintain parity with . . . newness"??? That may indeed be the case, but, In kicking around with TW for roughly 10 years I can't recall a time on the forum when I was having issues, where a guru would say, "You need to upgrade to gcc12, right now!!!!" Or whatever gcc option that would be the next new option. Leap 15.5 could provide the opportunity to continue using that technology, but buttressed with "stability" for the basic system, and just "roll in" kernel updates and so forth, "evolution" rather than "totally revamping every package" as now seems to be the case with TW. Thanks for the bandwidth.