On 04/08/2014 10:58 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> [2014-04-08 15:17]:
On 8 April 2014 15:11, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de> wrote:
Well, it's pretty cumbersome to count voices in a mail thread.
I understand the desire for precision, but when the goal is 'majority consensus' (which I understand is the target for OESP proposals) then
Actually OSEP 0001 is very vague on this, it talks about "the list" finding either a consensus for or against it.
I trust the judgement of the contributors involved to be able to judge if the proposal has a strong weight of support behind it, and good grounds for not considering any dissenting opinions (of course, I'd argue the ideal is where dissenting opinions can be used to improve the original proposal, but I'm pragmatic enough to understand this isn't always going to be practical)
It is still not clear to me whose voice should have how much weight in this, who the constituency is from whom a consensus emerges. "The list" as in any random person who posts to opensuse-factory, or openSUSE members, or contributors to Factory?
From my point of view "the list" is -factory. Everyone that contributes to openSUSE in a technical way should be subscribed to this list. Consensus should be majority consensus among those that care enough to take part in the discussion, as mentioned in a previous replay, those that do not participate most likely do not care enough about a particular issue. The "weight of voice" question probably needs a differentiated approach. If big changes in a given package cause major waves then the maintainer voice, or group of maintainers voices, of that particular package should carry the most weight, they do the work after all. If as in this case there is no clear cut maintainer, but it is more infrastructure related, then IMHO voices should be weighted equally. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead Public Cloud Architect rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org