On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 04:07:25PM +0000, Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
2009/1/11 Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.de>:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:45:27AM -0500, Putrycz, Erik wrote: Do you mean there's a kernel in the kernel-base rpm, that is intented for virtualised environments?
Yes, it can be used that way.
But note, it doesn't have the vmware drivers as they violate the GPL and can not be redistributed, and virtualbox drivers, well, let's just say some of us looked at that code, and ran away screaming :)
But for KVM or Xen, this package should work. If not, please let us know.
Hi Greg, Ignoring for a second the kernel modules required to support host access, what I was thinking was a kernel that implemented, for example.. Intel PIIX3/4 ATA, AHCI, Fusion MPT (for VMware), Intel AC97 audio and ES1371 audio, you know.. the hardware that you can pick in boxes from VMware or VirtualBox or whatever other emulation environment. The hardware it mimics on it's fake PCI bus etc. :) vmware-tools, virtualbox kernel drivers, either in weird package forms built by script, or KMPs, are something you generally have to pull in once the OS is installed (I've not yet seen any distribution - for licensing reasons or otherwise - provide any virtualization host-guest toolkit by default on the installation DVD). This is fine. But for the basic install and the basic kernel and the built initrd, why include 40 PCI ethernet cards, 10 framebuffer drivers, ATA drivers for every southbridge on the planet, things like PCI DVB adapters and server hardware such as Infiniband.. which.. it simply does not provide on it's virtual PCI bus? Since VirtualBox is based on QEMU and shares a lot of the physical device emulation, and VirtualBox and VMware tend to assume a certain subset of drivers are all an emulated system need have to boot, get through and installer and bring up Windows before host-guest tools are installed, those decisions in the design of the emulators would mean a more efficient, leaner kernel could be built with less drivers, less kernel build time, less boot time, far less bothersome modules to be "autoloaded" (it's not like you can hotplug a virtual PCI card in any of them, none of the emulators expose anything cpufreq can use, etc.) -- Matt Sealey <matt@genesi-usa.com> Genesi, Manager, Developer Relations -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org