-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oh no, not another lengthy thread.... I am afraid it is going to be, but hopefully we can stick to the topic and only focus on the name. A brief summary: Stephan as the release manager has decided that he will concentrate on building a distribution around the project known as openSUSE:42. In [1] he also tried to start the discussion about the naming of the new distro. However, this did get sidetracked rather quickly, thus, please focus on naming only. - - Not all questions for the new release have been answered, we do not need to revisit this. Some answers will only emerge as the baby starts to crawl and then walk.... - - Just because Stephan will take on the release manager responsibilities of a distro around the SLE sources does not preclude another person or team to build/release... a distro based on Factory snapshots. As the distribution is a representation of the project as a whole, i.e. all contributors, I think it is fair that people get an opportunity to weigh in with their concerns. This view may not be shared by everyone, so please bare with the rest of us as your mailbox once again fills up ;) However, to those participating in the discussion please focus on the name not on side issues. It has been advocated in other threads that a vote on the name should be considered as the final solution. There are reasonable arguments for and against such a direction. Thus, lets not focus on the voting part at this point either, lets just focus on the name and see where the discussion goes. If this should or should not be voted on can be a separate discussion once we collectively understand the concerns people have with respect to the name. In a "thread renaming" post we have had the following suggestion: * openSUSE Oak """" So how about Oak? It's a solid tree, it fits with the green theme and it will give us: * openSUSE Tumbleweed * openSUSE Oak """" "openSLES" has also been suggested a few times but lets just say that we will probably run afoul with a number of legal restrictions. Plus it is not really SLES, it is based on SLES sources and not a verbatim build of the SLES sources. My suggestion would be to focus on the name while considering that we should not create a name that would produce a potential conflict as described in [2], also consider the reply [3] So please lets focus on the name the child might have. State your case for the name you propose, include in the proposal a numbering scheme, if you think we should stick with numbers. Staring at 1 for a numbering scheme has rather obvious disadvantages, all other numbers are probably equally arbitrary, but you can certainly state the case why the number being proposed is favorable. I propose the above as the guidelines for the naming discussion. I will add my personal opinion about the name as a follow up post. Lets see if I can manage to stay within my own proposed guidelines ;) I apologize to those that are subscribed to both the -factory and the - -project list. However I know that there are a number of people that are not following -project but follow -factory, thus the cross post. As I mentioned, I believe that the distribution represents all of us and thus everyone should have their chance to weigh in on the name given to the baby that represents the community. Let the fun begin. Robert [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-06/msg00203.html [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00278.html [3] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-06/msg00280.html - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVgJlWAAoJEE4FgL32d2UkO9gH/i/TzZ9ayW2m2LAOryTk1mPT 4nViWBbxPH9NA1QVMlTc+bGpauuny7VWDz1GSZgF6aNXu8RQA+FJ914H3DOOiGJP C8y8Ik2aLikWOjVU/ZkF9F3YOY/Qt/gdia1LVJQnz5l5EsA98vjLpjNjV3grDlTy jmwogwCrR8WUoPx2YPompuqxePeZTjNFcQpa5i76TQhXj+afX5FKKVxSlWQlra8Q iS+h/3ke+28hUvAAeSQk3ufbfiuSN+93JX7R01N/Ni+03KX5CR0asTk+Go2KZ91F aQnaEXNeWWVyAB21GOcAe5m5duKWgkB59A0Wu3EjiS4Y+2+kRssZ38dF8Y/dLrI= =183F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org