Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-09-26 21:16, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
If not, then let's discuss to your initial point: Removal of syslog. For servers, syslog is indeed useful and we should continue to support it. The questions are: * Should we install syslog on the desktop by default even if the majority of users will not use it?
IMHO, yes. How else can people post problems and print part of the logs in emails?
Hi Carlos, that is not an issue. There will be utilities and tools available for extracting the right parts from the journal. The question is - for the average user, will they be any better than "grep xxxx /var/log/messages"?
* If not: is there a way to install syslog it as part of a server installation?
At least, provide an easy clickable option in yast to have syslog installed and configured since initial system installation.
Go into Software Management, search for syslog and tick the syslog-ng or rsyslog box. The issue is not so much the drawbacks of removing the default syslog, but whether it brings any actual benefits to the majority of our users. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org