On 1/31/19 1:42 PM, Jim E Bonfiglio wrote:
Hi Jim- so far as I'm aware, thinking does not necessarily match reality. I couldn't tell you how many attend that conference, but I do wonder what a representative sample of (open)SUSE users would report as "necessary" file systems. Without such a sample this proposed change appears quite reckless.
Best, Jim
On Thu, 2019-01-31 at 16:45 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 04:37:08 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
And yet there are enough to manage to have an annual convention: http://www.warpstock.org/
I don't have a horse in this race, but going to the site for the Berlin 2018 conference doesn't make me think that this affects thousands of users. It makes me think it affects about 20. Small conference rooms, a relatively small lunch gathering. Makes me wonder what the actual attendance is.
The solution is simple - remove the filesystem from the blacklist. Seems like a really easy thing to do for something that's used by 20 people.
It's not like the filesystem module is not being built or included.
In terms of local file systems, the vast majority of users use: ext2/3/4, xfs, btrfs, and reiserfs[1]. OCFS2 and GFS2 are common enough that I wouldn't want to blacklist them. JFS saw some use in the past but it was never particularly popular since it was the disk format used by OS/2 and not the AIX version. My opinions on it aren't new[2]. The rest are for compatibility with now-ancient or otherwise uncommon OSes, for pure flash (ie: without an FTL) media, or have other maintenance issues (f2fs). Are there users out there for any of these? I'm sure there are a handful. I just don't think it's worth leaving the attack surface open for the vast majority of users to accommodate a few -- especially if we can minimize the impact on the few. Now that I look at it again, the list was composed using the file systems we build on SLE15. There are two others that should be added: omfs ntfs[3] -Jeff [1] I expect this will go on the blacklist at some point in the future as I'm the last person to do any real work on it and I have other priorities that take precedence. [2] https://sourceforge.net/p/jfs/mailman/jfs-discussion/thread/fpps5p$g2t$2@sat... -- I'm assuming the staff member was me in this case. Dave also says that he tries to fix bugs but the hard ones go unfixed. This was 11 years ago. [3] Not that NTFS isn't widely used; Just that the only attention that the ntfs kernel module has has seen since 2007 has been for tree-wide cleanups and API changes. Use ntfs-3g instead. -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org