On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:50:50 +0200, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:41:36 +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Hi,
(cc'ing Takashi, who does not yet know about my plans even though we are co-maintaining X11:xfce ;-)
Now that the XFCE stuff in Factory is somewhat reasonably current, I'd like to propose a change in the default setup. I'd like to switch to the whiskermenu panel plugin (https://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/) as a default start menu.
Existing setups will not be changed, just the default for new users.
Sounds like a good idea. I know that you worked on that stuff.
The way this would be achieved would be a change in xfce4-branding-openSUSE package (actually xfce4-panel-branding-openSUSE) to the panel config, and that package then would get a "Requires: xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu". This requires would lead to ~500kB wasted space for people who do not want to use whiskermenu, but that's it, it won't do no harm otherwise.
Actually, it is more: --8<--- # zypper in -l in xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 11 NEW packages are going to be installed: libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-branding-openSUSE libgarcon-data libgarcon-lang libxfce4panel-2_0-4 libxfce4ui-tools openSUSE-xfce-icon-theme xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu-lang xfce4-settings-branding-openSUSE xfce4-splash-branding-openSUSE The following 3 recommended packages were automatically selected: libgarcon-data libgarcon-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu-lang 11 new packages to install. Overall download size: 873.0 KiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 1.8 MiB will be used. -->8--- which will be added to my already loaded system --8<--- # rpm -qa | wc -l 8082 # zypper se | grep ^i | wc -l 8280 -->8--- Other than that, I see no objections
Can't it be Recommends instead? Then you can add a lock to zypper and it keeps working without complaints.
Other than that, it looks promising, please go ahead.
If there are no objections, then I'd submit this soon (first to X11:xfce, then to Factory).
And that brings me to the second point: I'm trying to bring the XFCE Live CDs back. OK, the ISO's are too big for CDs, but work well as DVD or hybridpersistent USB stick.
If you want to try them out *now*, grab them from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/seife:/xfce/images/iso/
If there are no serious issues reported, I'd submit them to X11:xfce (and then announce the new location).
There are 4 images available:
XFCE-Leap-42.3-latest => XFCE from X11:xfce XFCE-Leap-42.3-stable => XFCE as shipped in Leap 42.3 XFCE-Tumbleweed-latest => XFCE from X11:xfce XFCE-Tumbleweed-stable => XFCE as shipped in Tumbleweed
The latter two should be pretty identical right now, but once I submit the above whiskermenu change to X11:xfce the Tumbleweed-latest variant will get the newer look.
Opinions?
Looks interesting, although I'm a sort of skeptical whether there will be so many users of live image nowadays... I don't mean objecting it at all, so I'm happy to see that stuff in OBS.
BTW, speaking of XFCE: do we have any openQA tasks for XFCE?
thanks,
Takashi
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