On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:52 +0100, Sid Boyce wrote:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've just send out to people that report to me the following request and like to share it with you so that you know what's going on if you see discussions starting and can look at the webpage as well.
* Ubuntu/Kubuntu 7.10 Beta
I suggest to install at least one of these products on real hardware and evaluate the distribution and try to get ideas for our next product.
* Look at the installation, what do you like and hate?
* Check the area you're most familiar in, e.g. printing, and see how it's integrated, e.g. configure a printer and print some documents. What is different compared to openSUSE 10.3? Where is the user experience different?
* Use the machine for some work, play around with it. How do you like it?
Please write down your experience on the openSUSE wiki at http://en.opensuse.org/Distro_Inspirations - and if you see things that you like to discuss, discuss them on the opensuse-factory mailing list.
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Andreas
One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post, Ubuntu has a thriving community of contributors. Every week I see a number of articles on how to do this or that on Ubuntu, usually appearing on linuxtoday and slashdot amongst others. One such article referred to me on this list did fix a problem I had with grub when I removed a dying hard drive which was /dev/sda and the previous /dev/sdb became /dev/sda. Many of the Ubuntu HOWTO articles address how to do stuff that is also applicable to openSUSE, though references throughout is about apt-get and dpkg. Many of the solutions to problems offered on this list would make good articles --- I must have a good look at the opeSUSE wiki, I'm sure there is noteworthy stuff that describes HOWTO on openSUSE, but the openSUSE angle never gets stressed enough. If you have Ubuntu and you want to know how to do something specific, there is almost always a result from a google search. Regards Sid.
Hi Andreas, list, At work, a projectleader forced us to abandon sles10 in favour of ubuntu. (just because he is using ubuntu at home and he's calling the shots, no real technical reason) It's true what Sid mentioned, it's got a thriving community. With its pro and cons: Yes, it has much more packages, but the turn-around-time is absolutely minimal: I rsync about 100GB every week. At work i have unlimited bandwith, no pain for me. And for the everage user who installs over the net neither. But for those who want/need to maintain their own install-server it's less positive (costly) On the other hand, latest versions of some packages can be found at ubuntu, but not even on the build server.... Second point: if you want to deploy systems with SuSE, the xml-files for autoyast / xen, works like a charm. Everybody can see that a lot of effort has been put in it. OTOH, creating & maintaining pre-seed-files for ubuntu is an absolute PITA: absolute picky/unforgiving about the syntax, no checking Definitely not production grade. Ubuntu needs at least several years before it reach the same stability/functionality for this point. Third point Ubuntu has a smaller footprint in disk/mem consumption. Having said that, i agree that 10.3 is a huge enhancement comparing with 10.1 and 10.2. As a matter of fact, a week ago someone asked for the iso's of 7.3, because he could run it with 64MB!!! I guess, that might be an unreachable target, but 10.1 was realy getting obesitas Final point, on the suse-wishlist i read the request of GFS. Marcus declined that, saying that you choose the use of ocfs2. Very well, but afaik, currently neither are on the media. GFS is available for debian/ubuntu and RedHat/Fedora/Centos/Aurora. (correct me if i'm wrong) Personally, i prefer SuSE, for it's stability --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org