-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-09-26 22:12, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
IMHO, yes. How else can people post problems and print part of the logs in emails?
Hi Carlos,
that is not an issue. There will be utilities and tools available for extracting the right parts from the journal.
Tools that I have to explain to someone via email...
The question is - for the average user, will they be any better than "grep xxxx /var/log/messages"?
IMHO, no. Windows has structured logs, and it is a nightmare searching for things you do not already know how to find and where. Examining logs in Linux is wonderfully easy in comparison.
* If not: is there a way to install syslog it as part of a server installation?
At least, provide an easy clickable option in yast to have syslog installed and configured since initial system installation.
Go into Software Management, search for syslog and tick the syslog-ng or rsyslog box.
Not good enough, not prominent enough.
The issue is not so much the drawbacks of removing the default syslog, but whether it brings any actual benefits to the majority of our users.
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