On 16/07/12 02:40, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Am 15.07.2012 17:44, schrieb Manfred Hollstein:
Hi there,
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, 17:32:18 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-07-15 17:13, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Am 15.07.2012 17:08, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
No, they don't (unless there is some strange bug). After a version upgrade of Firefox they might get checked one time but I hardly notice that here (as someone having -common installed and in use). Linux still is a multi user system and we want to provide the common languages on a machine. Therefore this is the best approach IMHO. Anyway people who do not like that can still block *-translations-* and install language packs in their own profile. I don't know, I don't an opinion yet.
Maybe I'd like the addons not to be enabled by default, just only installed. Yeah, I've faced this several times now, too, and I always thought, why I should have to deactivate lots of language packs in the first place. I agree with Carlos that the stuff should just be installed, and whenever you need _one_ additional language, just go there and activate _one_ -- instead of having to deactivate lots... I still don't understand why you would disable them? I never do that and I do not face any issues. If they are disabled Firefox wouldn't be able to use them dynamically given that Firefox on openSUSE uses the user's locale by default (if installed and enabled). Why would I expect the user to enable and switch to the one he actually can expect to be used by default anyway (as all other applications under Linux usually)?
OK, let's review the situation starting with my statement earlier to your post that the translations waste 32.6MB of space on the HDD and 6.2MB on an installation CD or DVD: * these translations are wasting 32.6MB of disc space; * the translations-common rpm got installed when I used the RC1 KDE LIVE CD. This was a clean install - a total formatting of the HDD in ext4 file system; * even though I installed oS 12.2 RC1 (from the KDE CD Build #53) with UK English as my language - and which I also selected as my language in the LOCALE setting in System Settings as well as elsewhere including selecting the UK English Dictionary in LibreOffice et al - the Brazilian Portuguese addon in Firefox keeps wanting to be updated. All other languages are disabled in the Firefox addons but, as I stated to Carlos earlier, the BP one is showing as wanting to be updated in the pic I provided here http://picpaste.com/ff-languages-3RXT4PGr.png . Having stated the above, let me now add this which may be of interest to anyone trying to resolve this conundrum- At the moment I am using Firefox v16.0a1, which is the Nightly version directly from Mozilla and which is installed in my /home directory. 16.0a1 does NOT show any languages add-on - because, I am guessing, that it doesn't know anything about the openSUSE translations-common file. But as soon as I switch over to Firefox 13.0.1 which came with openSUSE RC1, the Languages add-on list appears (which is what shown in the picpaste pic). (I don't know where all this leading or what it means so I'll stop here as I am now confused beyond reasonable thinking! :-D ) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.4.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org