
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012-11-13 19:54 (GMT-0500) Patrick Shanahan composed: Of course, it did get discussed here, so if Linda didn't already she should comb through the archives (and Bugzilla) to see whether there's any hope to gain anything by trying to discuss anywhere.
I remember the discussion in the timeframe of saying it was necessary for systemd -- and out of that discussion, it was said that it wouldn't be necessary to have /usr mounted to boot. This is not the case, as it is. -- The devs stuck in a shim-layer to ensure it was done -- and did it in a way to make sure backwards compatibility was NOT maintained. I ask again -- Why weren't soft-links put on /usr/bin pointing to the parent. Putting softlinks on a child directory, pointing to something on a parent file system is very bad form. If you need it to appear in two places, you put the soft link in the deeper dir or mounted file system pointing back to the parent. The agreement to not make booting root dependent on /usr being mounted. This was not done. I can no longer boot my root. Claiming that I have to a shim layer enable the old boot process to work where I load a file that is over 4X the size of my kernel misses the point of having loadable modules that only load on demand. I.e. ALL modules are loaded, and discards then loaded on demand. This is why I said the initrd boot process was much slower than native boot. To reboot my system using a hot kernel takes less than 30 seconds. Again, wasn't one of the main reasons for going with systemd, 'speed'? But you know, fixing it for 12.2 is unreasonable -- I'm convinced by: **** Patrick Shanahan wrote: ****
And this is *still* factory discussion list, not 12.2 which has been released. Discussion belongs on opensuse list.
This is something that needs to be fixed in 12.3. Thank-you, Patrick for clarify what was needed.I knew discussion on 'opensuse' wasn't the place to discuss a development issue, and 12.2 is "out the door".. not gonna be fixed for it. Trying to be *reasonable* here, and realizing it's an ice-cube's chance in hell of it being fixed in 12.2, I am being practical and agreeing with you -- this needs to be fixed in 12.3, where I can be one of the first to test the rpms ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org