simonizor composed on 2019-11-11 17:56 (UTC-0600):
Stefan Dirsch composed on 2019-11-11 15:51 (UTC+0100):
I seriously doubt this logfile has been created by xinit or startx. IIRC gnome writes the X logfile there for the Xserver which is being used for the usersession itself (gdm greeter uses its own Xserver or Wayland).
They straight up said that they did not believe that the user's log actually came from where the user said it came from.
Stefan is actually one of the few people on the planet capable of making that statement with any authority.
That is not how anyone should reply to a problem.
It it was too factual for you maybe you should have asked for an explanation rather than being grossly impolite. That someone is not only the Xorg maintainer - he's the one most likely to provide a solution to an apparently insurmountable Xorg problem help plea, or to fix an Xorg bug reported by a mere mortal openSUSE user, and then upstream when that's the bug's source. He's part of the upstream Xorg team and a long time *contributor* to the whole project, a past board member (one of the earliest <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_history>), and past driver of the whole build system.
Well, I would have hoped people have stopped using xinit/startx nowadays given that we no longer support it since decades. :-( Just use a proper displaymanager like gdm, sddm, lightdm, xdm like everyone is doing and you'll be happy. Even sound and access to nvidia devices for 3D rendering will just work ...
Then they stated that xinit is not supported and suggested that we use xdm instead. Guess what xdm depends on? xinit.
It's not supported as you are using it. If you weren't new here you would know he's repeatedly told us startx has long been deprecated by the project (<https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1120836#c1>). It remains in upstream, and thus in openSUSE, because there are (limited) circumstances requiring it. Report a bug about it and you can expect him to be the one to WONTFIX or upstream it(<https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929016> <https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=952781> <https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=974660>). If you are a nice upstanding community member, he might fix one (<https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915006>).
This is why I posted these things. It was not at all helpful to tell the user that 1) their log wasn't from where they said it was or 2) to tell the user that xinit is no longer supported and to use a DM that depends directly on xinit.
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