On Sunday 17 November 2013 17.59:00 cagsm wrote:
uhm, thats why they invented torrents like ages ago. releasing the stuff to masses early potentially gives a hole lot of more and better early "final" testing in case there is mess with the release. I also dislike that often opensuse had too many trouble on the final goldmaster bits especially for install and upgrade scenarios and this never gets addressed the whole userbase has to wait for the n+1 release of opensuse and pray for salvation that that release wont give them the trouble the n-release is giving them. debian and others do re-releases of their stuff over the maintenance period where especially bugs and their fixes in the installers, bootloaders and other essential stuff would help the userbase to have a more pleasant opensuse experience.
Just answers to fud. We have a way to do release, perhaps not the better one, but tests help us between the whole factory cycle and especially from beta to RC2. Trying to be good neighbors with people than maintain openSUSE's mirrors is just a question of acting like responsible people. You're talking about torrent, are you able to sustain the quantity of data spread around during launch time. I guess you have no ideas about the numbers. Did you also know, that the project is looking for early seeders, to help the mass on release date. We're looking for smart ass that will be able to pre get & share the torrent. Are you in ? Now you're already send them to the mass, I just hope that enough people will play their role of seeder, and keep the connection and share open for one month. You're describing a feeling, (the dislike stuff) but have you facts, that could help the different teams, and the project in global to act (react) better ? If not, or if you don't want to do somethings, you're just wasting characters. It's always a bit more complicated to act than to judge or emit ideas & feeling. About the re-release : That's why you could add *-update repositories during install and thus get the update in one pass. No need to wait like others distributions their re-released stuff. This is documented in proper docs. Also most of the time, Live cd are released, with *updates on them. Allowing to do what you describe. Now I would say, that nobody will forbid you to do the job of a release, but for sure there's some rules to follow. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org