On 01/16/2013 08:22 PM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 01/16/2013 03:49 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 16.01.2013 12:13, schrieb Frederic Crozat:
The other alternative is to get Xfce to interface properly with logind..
Well, no.
Systemd has broken it for everyone and now everybody needs to adapt to the new world order because systemd says so?
Yes, that's it, unless of course someone wants to take care of N ways to
No, that's definitely not how Linux is supposed to work. The first and unbreakable rule is *no regressions*. Anywhere [1]. Systemd started being a piece of shit and tries to continue in that by constantly breaking the rule and breaking non-mainstream stuff (heck, redhat guys I talked to used to be kidding about that by saying that it boots exclusively on the Lennart's laptop). Stop spreading that crap. The developers just cannot break everything and move their hands off spitting at people to fix their stuff. This is not how mature developers do coding. And yet, this is not for the first time; pm-utils removal is the last example I remember. Don't you see how bad the design of that software is? If systemd people are not going to take care of *every* desktop they would better not touch anything that could affect those, period. There is nothing like "patches welcome" or "we don't care". So if there is not enough time to patch all of them now, revert is the only option. [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org