On Thursday 01 August 2013 08:39:01 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 31.07.2013 15:46, schrieb Robert Schweikert:
More testing by more people is always good. Unfortunately to this day we have failed to come up with ideas that have any effect on the number of people that use factory.
Do we know how many people use Factory?
I mean -- lots of it is perception. People think it is not usable. Or people think it is a rolling distribution like Arch.
Both is wrong: it is usable, but it is not usable like Arch, since from time to time large-scale breakage happens.
So for people asking me if they should use Factory, i often answer "probably not", just to not put the support burden onto me.
But if we can make the "large scale breakage happens" happen less often, Factory might be a good thing for advanced users.
Let's try to revive the factory-tested snapshots, that can be used to recover from a bad update and maybe with a few howtos about how to recover from a bad factory update we can actually recommend it for daily use of advanced users.
Yeah, that's not really related to the subject. But OTOH making Factory even harder to use than it is today (today it is only hard if something breaks) is probably not the way to get more users.
Well, do we WANT users of Factory? I'm all for it if they are developers or testers, but I would strongly oppose making development ANY harder to appease 'just users' of Factory... Users should use our releases. They are welcome to use Factory but let's focus Factory on, you know, development... If, on the other hand, developers like you and most folk here want Factory to be more stable because it helps them one way or another: let's do it. /J