On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:48:58 +0200 Dominique Leuenberger <dimstar@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 09:37 +0200, josef Reidinger wrote:
Hi, I am just curious who manage the Tumbleweed product? I know that it is do-ocracy, but I am not sure if it works well for product decisions like what to support, what will be default, etc. I would really like to see some steering committee that is entrusted to do such decision, as for installer it will be much easier to have counterpart to ask/discuss product decisions (e.g. also to help new users with pre-selected DE whatever will be ).
Unpopular opinion - but I'd say my team (SUSELabs/Early Adopters) 'owns' the final decisions on the openSUSE Tumbleweed and Leap products. Certainly we try to only act as 'supporting body' for things the community submits and are always happy not having to 'decide for or against' a feature. Whenever people do work to move something, we rather point out technical conflicts; like in the SELinux switch, the 'migration' to the new default will be the tricky/impossible part.
So it will mean that technically TW/Leap is driven by one of SUSE team. That is for me problematic from two points. The first one is that Early Adopters team is basically playground for new technologies for SUSE products, which I am not sure is not always in conflict with users/community interest. And the second reason is that it is not anyway formalized, so I do not expect many people know it ( including me ), that they should contact your team for such decisions ( is it even publicly available who is responsible for what and who is in team? ). For example I mention on my talk on OSC that it would be nice to have for newbies default desktop selected in TW and Leap, to avoid unnecessary confusion for people coming from windows or mac world. So who should I contact for such decision?
There is a weekly "Release Engineering" meeting where aspects for Tumbleweed/Leap/MicroOS/Aeon are being discussed.
https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensuse-release-engineer...
Meeting minutes are being published weekly to the mailing lists and are kept for reference on etherpad.
I kind of expect that Release Engineering is more about topics regarding issues with releasing product, not about technical directions of product.
Cheers, Dominique
Josef