Am 30.09.2015 um 10:29 schrieb Stefan Seyfried:
On 30.09.2015 10:06, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
I am not the maintainer of v4l/dvb-utils, and I do not want to be. So I'm not going to submit it to Leap (committing to support it for basically forever).
those should be no problem to update with later .X versions (but again I'm not an expert). Also have you talked to the maintainer?
Additionally they do not build for Leap at all, because the specfile checks for version > 1320 and Leap only has 1315, but is often newer than 1320.
Yes, for some packages we had to fix this. It's allowed to create a new "branch" for a package if required for Leap. There should be a plan to streamline again asap though. We did that for other packages.
And the benefit of Leap (as it was sold) is, that we'll get the stability of SLES12 for free. If we are going to update everything to Factory, then it's just the same as Tumbelweed.
Nobody said we should update everything. We need to apply human intelligence and find the best solution on a case by case base. And yes, that is what I meant that this is not an easy thing.
I guess nobody said it'll be easy to create Leap and we try it the first time. Actually I think we do not have enough time in the roadmap to make it perfect in the first phase. I hope we'll be able to come closer with 42.1.
This *is* 42.1 already :-)
I obviously meant 42.2 and later because we can obviously be more progressive with package version updates and stuff with those releases. Please don't get me wrong. I'm a big exponent of using SLE packages as much as possible and changing that should have a good reason. But in your case it sounds like a good reason. And yes Leap also means that SLE and openSUSE maintainers need to work closer together and this needs "social" overhead. But in the end we hopefully end up with something useful (and we still have Tumbleweed). I'm really optimistic we can make that work. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org