On Mon, Sep 04, 2023 at 08:47:19AM +0200, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2023-09-04 08:34, Michal Suchánek wrote:
With Granite not coming until 2025 and there being no plan for a Leap 15.7, there would be a high risk of having no option for Leap users for a year or two while your idea takes form, gets developed and then released
And why is there no plan for LEap 15.7?
Because of several reasons
- the general agreement of Leaps use of SLE sources was with the condition that openSUSE would always transition to the next Enterprise codebase when it exists. Now ALP is here, it exists. The fact that it exists in a different scope than previous Enterprise codebases is a fact that openSUSE needs to rise to address - this is proving hard already - making a 15.7 will just make that harder.
- the folk that SUSE contributes to make Leap are also the same folk you’ll need to make and support a 15.7. We could really use their help to build a Leap replacement. So if I were to push for a 15.7, that would mean we’d have to find even more new folk to lead, release manage, build and maintain a Leap replacement. I’d rather see the Leap pros working on a platform that has a future in the Project rather than losing them for a year or two maintaining a platform with no future.
Not really. Moving from Leap 15.6 to ALP means moving to ALP when it does not exist yet. There is a prototype but not a finished thing. Moving from Leap 15.7 to ALP means that the new codebase to move to is available to move to. From the discussion so far it looks like moving from Leap 15.6 to ALP is in fact closer to losing the Leap contributors for a year trying to build on top of something that does not exist than moving from Leap 15.7 does. Inevitably doing the move will mean maintaining the old while building the for some time, as was the case with Jump. And this time the difference betwen the old and the new is bigger so it will take more time to get something working. Sure, abandoning the concept of building on top of SUSE distribution is a possibility. Doing that only because of the release timing for 15.6 vs ALP does not sound like a great decision. Thanks Michal