On 2023-09-03 02:45, Simon Lees wrote:
So I've seen enough from the granite discussions along with enough user and developer interest (which didn't have to be much) to want to work on / build a Granite++ I.E. Rather then just doing a 1:1 rebuild, having an additional repo similar to openSUSE_Backports for Leap and allowing contributors to submit whichever packages they feel they'd like on top.
I think that this will be a sustainable approach in that Granite gives us a good base OS and we will only be adding on top of it the stuff that people care enough about to contribute and to the people who do contribute it will be more useful then plane granite plus keeping a bunch of there own packages in there home repo's. At some point I should probably also talk to the package hub team, because if they are interested in a package hub concept for ALP its likely we could also share some effort.
Will it be functionally comparable with Leap, probably not will it be comparable enough to be marketed as a Leap replacement at this stage who knows. Will it be a useful standalone distro that's worth doing in my opinion yes. If it reaches the contributor and user level of something like MicroOS then i'd be willing to call it a working success.
To answer your final two questions, I still plan to go ahead with these efforts once the ALP repo's are successfully synced back into OBS at least to the point of starting to get some of the packages I care about working. As for a timeframe personally i'm not planning on doing too much until Granite is a little more fleshed out and more of the package set starts being added to ALP. Otherwise it will probably lead to a bunch of duplicated effort.
Finally I think slowroll is a fun concept and I look forward to seeing the results if people keep playing with the idea.
Thanks for sharing your plans Simon But like you seem to accept, they may not exactly equate to a viable Leap replacement With Granite not coming until 2025 and there being no plan for a Leap 15.7, there would be a high risk of having no option for Leap users for a year or two while your idea takes form, gets developed and then released Might be all worth doing when we get there anyway but the whole point of this exercise was to see if what options were viable for the openSUSE Project take care of itself That’s why “wait and see” wasn’t an option in the poll -- Richard Brown Distributions Architect SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstraße 146, D-90461 Nuremberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Directors/Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich