On 2023-10-27 10:54, Martin Wilck via openSUSE Factory wrote:
On Fri, 2023-10-27 at 12:11 +1030, Simon Lees wrote:
Really there should be nothing installable from software.o.o that can't be included in the distro directly which provides a far better user experience and if we don't have stuff in the distro maybe the better answer for new users is to Install a flatpak or a simple sorry we don't have that available currently rather then pointing them toward a service with a high potential to break there system if they don't have a really good understanding of what they are doing.
I agree with everything you say about software.o.o being confusing and hard to use correctly. I also agree that the current issues with s.o.o should be fixed before basing a new launcher on it.
Yet it's the most obvious way to search for packages that aren't directly available from standard repos. E.g. leap users can see whether a certain package they are missing is available for tumbleweed. Or they can search in devel and home repos for missing packages and/or newer versions. This is much easier than trying to search OBS, and more obvious for novice users than using an inofficial tool like opi.
I also agree with Simon and Martin. I think it's a mistake to push software that is known to have issues using a delivery mechanism that is known to have issues. I'd much rather see a lot more software that currently only lingers in unofficial OBS projects make their way into our official distributions (especially Tumbleweed) -- Richard Brown Distributions Architect SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstraße 146, D-90461 Nuremberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Directors/Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich