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On Sunday 03 October 2010 11:46:59 Roman Bysh wrote:
On 10/03/2010 11:42 AM, jdd wrote: ...
not so easy because of a rarely said fact: openSUSE is the only distribution really RAID and LVM friendly, but this allows a variety of boot systems very difficult to debug
The fact is that attempt to help RAID and LVM that are not so often present on computers will make simple solution complicated and no one with enough coding abilities will step up and make such script. To go from: 1) single hard disk, multiple partitions setup, which is on 99% of desktop computers (Linux), and on 99.999% when you look on first time users that are the most endangered specie in case of boot problems, to: 2) help to RAID and LVM users too, there is huge difference in amount of work to create solution. For SUSE insider that worked on boot process first should be only few hours of work. Second was actually never solved. Do we really want to abandon 99% to favor lesser then 1% ? ...
All that is asked is:"Don't burn all bridges, before you are sure that new one will stand."
there is an option for this in zypper. It have some drawbacks that could easily be overcome with some twitting (limiting to 2/3 kernels,making the boot option title fancier)
Problem is that such option is not default and it is not because it is half way done. You can have multiple kernels, but they will stay in /boot and will show in boot menu forever until they are removed manually. Each kernel update will just add new kernel entry and its failsafe option. Manual removal is possible, but it requires from user to learn what can be removed and how to do that, even from users that installed Linux to do something else with it, which, like artwork, we are missing big time. There is also another problem. User has great chance to hit Debian based information, over some Ubuntu advice, and apply wrong solution.
jdd
A graphical representation for " Reinstall Grub Bootloader " from the boot menu of the Live CD/DVD would help immensely especially for openSUSE newcomers.
Ability to boot the system will give you ability to run YaST with all perks it offers, so developing GUI that is not as simple as script that will use text mode, is not urgent need. You probably never used old YaST1 module that allowed to boot from any partition that contained kernel. The only problem with that module it was buried in text mode that shows up when installation fails or it is canceled. It was not user friendliness champion, but it will let you boot system and continue from there.
Roman
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