On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:13:23 +0200, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 29.08.2015 v 9:56 Felix Miata napsal(a):
Martin Pluskal composed on 2015-08-29 09:30 (UTC+0200):
It is however surprising how many people in this thread are trying to "volunteer" others time and resources
Not every piece of the construction puzzle is appropriately built by developers/coders/packagers. Not all testing can be done in VMs, or by robot testing methods. Some people voluntarily contribute by performing other tasks on which success depends, possibly most or even all non-programmer particpants in this thread.
I think that you don't understand what I just said, so I will try to rephrase it; by building and supporting Leap for 32-bit and/or by continuing support for 32-bit Tumbleweed, as officially supported architectures, there is obligation (although in reality not always fulfilled) for package maintainers, openSUSE developers etc to resolve architecture specific issues/build failures and so on for 32-bit - in other words more work people, who do not necessarily want to use or support 32-bit.
Honestly speaking, I doubt that the support of x86 in packages will become *so much* difficult in three years. Usually supporting the old hardware is far easier than supporting a new architecture. OTOH, I understand your concern, too. Seeing spontaneous i586 build failures isn't always a nicest moment. But, what if i586 is handled as semi-official like arm and ppc?
I hope I don't need to remind you that testing something, and reporting issues will not magically make something work, nor will it create working distribution, packagers/maintainers/developers are necessary, and by burdening members of community with supporting legacy hardware we are risking them leaving project.
Seemingly many people are very afraid of the legacy hardware. With my kernel subsystem maintainer hut on, I'd say that it's an overreaction. Remember that the kernel still supports 20 years old devices, and we'll likely keep supporting for some more years. Why? Just because there are still users. The continuity wins over everything. Isn't it difficult? Yeah, sometimes, but the reported bugs also decrease at the same time, so don't worry too much :) Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org