On 4/25/2017 12:12 PM, Nate Graham wrote:
On 04/25/2017 09:56 AM, Rüdiger Meier wrote:
On 04/25/2017 05:46 PM, Nate Graham wrote:
On 04/25/2017 09:41 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Goo, you guys make it all so complicated.
I disable my PC's speaker very simply. I plug in the headphones. If I don't want any sound I turn down the volume on the headphones.
Perhaps your machine is different, that plugging in headphones doesn't disable speaker.
The advantage is that if I *do* want to listen to something, a podcast perhaps, I just use the headphone. I don't disturb anyone.
On my laptop (and probably most modern laptops) the old-fashioned "PC speaker" is not a physical piece of hardware on the motherboard: it is purely virtual, and its audio is piped through the main speakers/headphone jack/audio channel *regardless of system volume*. So If you followed your normal routine with my hardware, one day when you were wearing your headphones with the volume down low or muted, you would accidentally hit the backspace, up, or left arrow key in a GTK text view and there would be an incredibly loud angry jarring beep right your eardrum at max volume.
Just remove pulseaudio. This solves all these problems.
And that breaks audio in Firefox, which now requires PulseAudio :)
Returning to the past never works in the long term. The world changes,
Accepting and tolerating every terrible idea, such as allowing something like firefox to actually require something like pulseaudio, is no virtue. In the entire history of humanity, not one thing anywhere, ever, got better by accepting things as they are. That argument about accepting the status quo might seem to apply rather to "returning to the past", but the difference is, a bad idea is a bad idea, regardless if it is a new idea or an old idea. The reasons why a given idea are bad can be evaluated all by themselves and no opinions or ambiguity about it. Every idea surely provides some sort of benefit when viewed from some sort of context, and some sort of harm when viewed from some sort of context. The bad idea is the one that provides insufficient benefits to justify it's harms. The blind fanboy declines to recognize any harms, even when shown. The blind curmudgeon declines to recognize any benefits even when shown. No one can help being a little bit prejudiced one way or the other, but what IS reasonable to ask, is that everyone at least be cognizant of these universal facts of the human condition, and at least be holding the 3rd person view as the ideal they *aim* for, however imperfectly. The limitations and impositions and plain inconsideration of making pulseaudio a requirement for a browser as fundamental as firefox, inflict far more harm than benefit, and, on top of that, it does so without even the excuse of any pressing necessity. That's just, well, repeating myself, inexcusable. -- bkw
time marches on, and everything we once held dear will eventually be replaced with something foreign and alien. Such is life.
And anyway, the true fix for this issue is really simple: just set "gtk-error-bell = 0" in /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
Nate
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