-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-23 10:46, Thomas Langkamp wrote:
The above is valid: TW in its current form is for experts / experienced users / users following this list. That is exactly why I started this discussion:
subject: "A users wishlist to make zypper up/dup & suse noob-friendly"
See? I said implicitly that zypper is too complicated and my wish is, that it - or another update mechanism - would make TW beginner-friendly.
Huh. Misunderstanding here. When I say that TW is for experts, or at least for experienced users, I'm not thinking only of zypper. I'm thinking of the overall TW concept. It is inherent to being on the edge of development. Changes appears constantly, and sometimes causing breakage (or partial breakage). Ok, must of it is catched by openQA, but other things are detected later, by humans. Even without breakage, changes in services and applications means that the administrators and users have to read docs and adapt their setups; and being the edge, it is these users who have to find out how to deal with these changes on their own: chances are they are the first to do it in the entire world. Thus I'm against easing much the installation of TW: it would be a false feeling. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWw6zwACgkQja8UbcUWM1w57AEAgZ/wkg5EKgwlkdf33Hor1qbg sGDgMR8ArzqxlQ/tGyQA/Rm2ZxXLKAFNcCNp0dAaDuyYeWDbyeDK5TTzf/Xpm7zd =Stw4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org