On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 15:56 +0200, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@suse.de> [2011-06-16 15:09]:
In the future we want /etc/defaults and /etc/sysconfig, and all the other friends distros invented to die. :)
Different distros have different policies and objectives which is why such efforts have failed before,
Mostly for no good reason. 95% of the distro-on-top changes are just because they didn't know better or the service didn't provide the right stuff. All that is fixable.
and with Debian and Ubuntu two major distros have already opted out of that.
'That' means systemd? Debian is very active in systemd development, and Ubuntu hasn't decided anything, besides the fact that the original author from Canonical has left, and is no longer developing Upstart.
Information in /etc/sysconfig also does not necessarily only contain configuration information specific to a service but also information on how to manage that service (my own /etc/sysconfig/zfs-fuse comes to mind and there are others). And how is all this supposed to integrate with YaST?
Do your own config file in top-level /etc for your service. And use a sane format and sane options, and let Yast edit that file directly if really needed.
But stuff that works today should not stop working. It might just be, that in the background systemd is doing some stuff for sessions (like ConsoleKit) that is not used by anything.
One example why committing to systemd is not simply about switching the init daemon. And it seems from the responses on the Fedora and GNOME lists that I'm not the only one getting the impression that systemd employs technology to push personal and political agendas.
Sure the agendas of a whole lot of people. Like every actively maintained project. Systemd tries to solve the system service management, not just to replace init. It was clear from the beginning, and it wasn't started to just replace SYSV. It will be some sort of a base system on its own. Judging by the current speed of adoption by distros, and the dropping of SYSV support by many of them, and the pressure coming from the enterprise people for advanced features, I don't think there is much to discuss on the general direction in the future, unless someone comes up with something else on top the current stuff. Anyway, better join the development now, if you don't like the direction and want to influence things. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org