[opensuse-factory-mozilla] magic needed for 12.1

Without the mozilla repo enabled, I have current Firefox v14, and non-current Thunderbird v13 and SeaMonkey v2.10. If I enable mozilla repo to get current TB v14 and SM v2.11, zypper wants to downgrade Firefox to v13. What magic is required to have all three apps current a week or more after the newest of the three was released by upstream? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

Am 25.07.2012 02:16, schrieb Felix Miata:
AFAIK that factory-mozilla list does no longer exist? Anyway I'm not sure why Firefox was released already officially via the update channel while Thunderbird and SeaMonkey are still pending. All were submitted at the same time. If you switch on the mozilla repo you should have access to all of them immediately. Why it wants to downgrade Firefox to 13 must be a package manager error. I'm running my systems all on "mozilla" and it just worked for me. Can you find all the current versions via zypper search -s? And what does zypper tell you if you zypper install the current version explicitely? Could be a vendor lock for example. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012/07/25 07:43 (GMT+0200) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
AFAIK that factory-mozilla list does no longer exist?
I got your post from both direct and listserv.
I don't see anything in zypper ll output to account for this. It's probably too late for me to figure out how to give you what you want. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/121/varlogzyppbob.txt may have some of it. I did 'zypper al MozillaFirefox', then did zypper dup with Mozilla repo enabled to get this net result: MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.33.1.x86_64 (Updates) MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-6.0-1.1.x86_64 MozillaThunderbird-14.0-2.1.x86_64 (System packages) MozillaThunderbird-translations-common-14.0-2.1.x86_64 ca-certificates-mozilla-1.76-3.4.1.noarch mozilla-nspr-4.9.1-2.1.x86_64 mozilla-nss-3.13.5-1.1.x86_64 mozilla-nss-certs-3.13.5-1.1.x86_64 seamonkey-2.11-1.1.x86_64 (System packages) seamonkey-irc-2.11-1.1.x86_64 zypper se -s shows highest uninstalled available: MozillaThunderbird-14.0-3.1 (Mozilla) seamonkey-2.11-2.1 (Mozilla) MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.1 (Mozilla) I have no idea what (System packages) refers to. It's not in zypper lr output. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

Hi, Am 25.07.2012 08:32, schrieb Felix Miata:
System packages means the installed ones when they are not available in a repo anymore. So basically the above looks quite ok after a dup and counting in that the mozilla repo changed last night because of the NSPR update to 4.9.2. If you want to be sure to get updates to official versions as soon as possible you would need to switch to the mozilla repo versions as otherwise you probably won't get them (even with dup) because release numbers in OBS are a bit strange. The way I'd recommend to do it is using YaST - go to repo view - switch to mozilla and click the "switch all installed packages to versions from this repo" (or similar; don't know the exact wording). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012/07/25 08:55 (GMT+0200) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.33.1.x86_64 (Updates)
zypper se -s shows highest uninstalled available: MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.1 (Mozilla)
So 14.0.1-2.33.1 is not really the highest FF version? Zypper dup -d with the MozillaFirefox lock removed downloads 14.0.1-2.1.
I'm doing this in runlevel 3 on someone else's puter, and can't stand fumbling through curses YaST package management. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

Am 25.07.2012 02:16, schrieb Felix Miata:
AFAIK that factory-mozilla list does no longer exist? Anyway I'm not sure why Firefox was released already officially via the update channel while Thunderbird and SeaMonkey are still pending. All were submitted at the same time. If you switch on the mozilla repo you should have access to all of them immediately. Why it wants to downgrade Firefox to 13 must be a package manager error. I'm running my systems all on "mozilla" and it just worked for me. Can you find all the current versions via zypper search -s? And what does zypper tell you if you zypper install the current version explicitely? Could be a vendor lock for example. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012/07/25 07:43 (GMT+0200) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
AFAIK that factory-mozilla list does no longer exist?
I got your post from both direct and listserv.
I don't see anything in zypper ll output to account for this. It's probably too late for me to figure out how to give you what you want. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/121/varlogzyppbob.txt may have some of it. I did 'zypper al MozillaFirefox', then did zypper dup with Mozilla repo enabled to get this net result: MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.33.1.x86_64 (Updates) MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-6.0-1.1.x86_64 MozillaThunderbird-14.0-2.1.x86_64 (System packages) MozillaThunderbird-translations-common-14.0-2.1.x86_64 ca-certificates-mozilla-1.76-3.4.1.noarch mozilla-nspr-4.9.1-2.1.x86_64 mozilla-nss-3.13.5-1.1.x86_64 mozilla-nss-certs-3.13.5-1.1.x86_64 seamonkey-2.11-1.1.x86_64 (System packages) seamonkey-irc-2.11-1.1.x86_64 zypper se -s shows highest uninstalled available: MozillaThunderbird-14.0-3.1 (Mozilla) seamonkey-2.11-2.1 (Mozilla) MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.1 (Mozilla) I have no idea what (System packages) refers to. It's not in zypper lr output. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

Hi, Am 25.07.2012 08:32, schrieb Felix Miata:
System packages means the installed ones when they are not available in a repo anymore. So basically the above looks quite ok after a dup and counting in that the mozilla repo changed last night because of the NSPR update to 4.9.2. If you want to be sure to get updates to official versions as soon as possible you would need to switch to the mozilla repo versions as otherwise you probably won't get them (even with dup) because release numbers in OBS are a bit strange. The way I'd recommend to do it is using YaST - go to repo view - switch to mozilla and click the "switch all installed packages to versions from this repo" (or similar; don't know the exact wording). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012/07/25 08:55 (GMT+0200) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.33.1.x86_64 (Updates)
zypper se -s shows highest uninstalled available: MozillaFirefox-14.0.1-2.1 (Mozilla)
So 14.0.1-2.33.1 is not really the highest FF version? Zypper dup -d with the MozillaFirefox lock removed downloads 14.0.1-2.1.
I'm doing this in runlevel 3 on someone else's puter, and can't stand fumbling through curses YaST package management. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+owner@opensuse.org
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