Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Frontpage?
IMO Frontpage is only for newbies, and for putting together that quick & dirty "We're just building our site for the first time, please bear with us while we learn to hand-code HTML" page. At least it doesn't produce too much broken HTML :) There are better tools (vi or notepad, for example <wry grin> ) One of the rules for web prsence is "keep it STANDARD" - front page extensions are non-standard - and will look mighty odd on older or non-FP extended browsers. Like Flash, you need the viewer as well as the server tools. ----------
From: Paul Munro <paul.munro1@btinternet.com> To: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Frontpage? Date: 07 February 2002 18:44
Hi!
Quick questions:
1. Is Frontpage any good (never used it myself)? 2. Does Apache support Frontpage/FP Extensions etc.?
Personally I would use HTML/Dreamweaver/Flash etc but I have a relative who wants to put up a web site and was recommended FP by a Linux user in the USA (?).
Thanks for your advice.
Paul
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 08 Feb 2002 08:47 am, Edgehill e-mail service wrote:
IMO Frontpage is only for newbies, and for putting together that quick & dirty "We're just building our site for the first time, please bear with us while we learn to hand-code HTML" page. At least it doesn't produce too much broken HTML :)
Not in the new versions, anyway - the only crap it adds is a Meta-Generator tag - all the other HTML it produces seems to be quite well done. The early pages produced, well, a crock of sh1t, if you pardon the expression.
There are better tools (vi or notepad, for example <wry grin> )
You can do direct editing in Frontpage - I was stuck using it in the summer to do some ASP coding. I did a very basic page layout in the GUI-bit, and then edited the layout, and created all the ASP by hand in the HTML-editor. The advantage I found with it was that it interfaced happily with IIS, so you just needed to click the 'update site' button, and it would automatically update the website. Slightly more convenient than FTPing a site across, and digging down until you find the right directory. One gripe I did have (and generally have with a lot of these Windows-based (and KDE/Gnome for that matter) text editors) is that there's no way of changing the default text colours to white text on a black background, which is *far* more pleasant to look at for long periods of time. I've now got an LCD monitor, so it's far more pleasant to look at for long periods of time than a CRT, but I still prefer white text-on-black background.
One of the rules for web prsence is "keep it STANDARD" - front page extensions are non-standard - and will look mighty odd on older or non-FP extended browsers.
It's a Microsoft Standard. And as we all know, everyone uses Microsoft - Windows is 100% of all PCs, FP is a standard :-) </sarcasm>
Like Flash, you need the viewer as well as the server tools.
Yes, well, Flash is evil, and IMO any web designer who uses Flash should be hung, drawn, quartered, shot and burned (and not necessarily in that order). *Especially* the websites where they have a Flash intro, and never use it again. Dan - -- dankolb@ox.compsoc.net - --I reserve the right to be completely wrong about any comments or opinions expressed; don't trust everything you read above-- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBPGPCnJdDUnce+EgsEQLDWACgjwqJ8EypVD6gYNGUM5gfDir8RmEAn3rW Wta6kP7XwsUBS3Y+6APR2dsK =UT4d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Friday 08 February 2002 12:20 pm, Dan Kolb wrote: [snip]
Like Flash, you need the viewer as well as the server tools.
Yes, well, Flash is evil, and IMO any web designer who uses Flash should be hung, drawn, quartered, shot and burned (and not necessarily in that
I have to partly disagree with you here. Flash as a technology is very good at what it is designed for - introducing some interaction/movement into what is basically a static medium. The problem with Flash - as with many other medium - is that 97% if flash produced is absolute drivel and annoying beyond imagination. The other 3% is good, usefull and enhances the site it is on.
order). *Especially* the websites where they have a Flash intro, and never use it again.
Here I have to agree with you completely and utterly. If I visit a site like this then I leave it before the flash has finished and never go back. Just recently we went through a spate where firms kept coming in to offer to revamp our work site. It was alarming how many of them started the schpeel by saying - We can give you this nice Flash intro that will impress.......... I had two very big boys at the end of a buzzer to remove the trash. If I want to watch cartoons I'll turn on 'The Cartoon Network' (One of the best TV channels ever IMO).
Dan
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