I have yet to receive a post from this group yet it is the one that interests me the most of the Suse lists. Is it just that no one has anything to say? I am switching the entire lab here at school over to Suse 9.1 and would have liked some input/comments/suggestions
Liam Marshall wrote:
I have yet to receive a post from this group yet it is the one that interests me the most of the Suse lists.
Is it just that no one has anything to say?
I guess, I've never received any postings from this list, but have great interest in it as well.
I am switching the entire lab here at school over to Suse 9.1 and would have liked some input/comments/suggestions
I think that's fantastic, although I'm not sure what kind of input you're looking for. I would suggest that you don't do a flash cutover, but, assuming that the machines are likely very similarily configured, install on one and work with it a while until you know there won't be any surprises. Good luck. -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 Building secure systems in spite of Microsoft
;-) I had no idea I was even on this list... As for the SuSE change over maybe you can explain in more detail just what you are up to... then we can actually have a a list that works :-) Steve D Geoffrey wrote:
Liam Marshall wrote:
I have yet to receive a post from this group yet it is the one that interests me the most of the Suse lists.
Is it just that no one has anything to say?
I guess, I've never received any postings from this list, but have great interest in it as well.
I am switching the entire lab here at school over to Suse 9.1 and would have liked some input/comments/suggestions
I think that's fantastic, although I'm not sure what kind of input you're looking for. I would suggest that you don't do a flash cutover, but, assuming that the machines are likely very similarily configured, install on one and work with it a while until you know there won't be any surprises.
Good luck.
-- Stephen Donaldson General Manager OpenOZ Pty Ltd 0415 316 783 steve@opneoz.net
I'd also forgotten I was on the list. I'm a Network Engineer at a company that installs and supports computer networks in schools and universities in the SouthEast U.S. I'm looking out for ways to bring linux into the schools, but my boss won't let me discuss it with the customers because he's afraid it will leave them with the impression that I don't have full confidence in the other software we install and support. I've already had one customer ask if I can produce a working demo of a linux solution that would work in the TechPrep labs they have. I'm not sure if anyone on the list is familiar with labs such as Computer Discovery, Career Discovery, TechPrep, Technology Applications, etc., but if anyone knows how to implement these in whole or in part using SuSe, I've got at least one school who'd like to see it. And if I can provide one solid lead (generated by customer request, so the boss should be happy with that), I'll have something I can take to the boss. He's already said it's OK to do some R&D with regard to linux as long as it doesn't interfere with the current business we're doing. I can understand where he's coming from. He just wants to make a profit and avoid spooking the current customer base. -Rob
Rob Andrews wrote:
I'd also forgotten I was on the list.
I'm a Network Engineer at a company that installs and supports computer networks in schools and universities in the SouthEast U.S.
What part of the SouthEast? I'm just outside of Atlanta, GA.
I'm looking out for ways to bring linux into the schools, but my boss won't let me discuss it with the customers because he's afraid it will leave them with the impression that I don't have full confidence in the other software we install and support.
Oh, he doesn't want them to know the truth. :)
I've already had one customer ask if I can produce a working demo of a linux solution that would work in the TechPrep labs they have. I'm not sure if anyone on the list is familiar with labs such as Computer Discovery, Career Discovery, TechPrep, Technology Applications, etc., but if anyone knows how to implement these in whole or in part using SuSe, I've got at least one school who'd like to see it.
Not familiar here, can you describe these labs/apps?
And if I can provide one solid lead (generated by customer request, so the boss should be happy with that), I'll have something I can take to the boss. He's already said it's OK to do some R&D with regard to linux as long as it doesn't interfere with the current business we're doing.
I can understand where he's coming from. He just wants to make a profit and avoid spooking the current customer base.
Understood. As we all know, replacing proprietary solutions with Linux often saves money.. (larger profit) -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 Building secure systems in spite of Microsoft
What part of the SouthEast? I'm just outside of Atlanta, GA.
My office is in Jackson, MS. We cover all of Mississippi.
I'm looking out for ways to bring linux into the schools, but my boss won't let me discuss it with the customers because he's afraid it will leave them with the impression that I don't have full confidence in the other software we install and support.
Oh, he doesn't want them to know the truth. :)
That's not how he likes to phrase it. ;) He said something to the effect that he doesn't want me to give the impression that I have less than complete confidence in the products we sell them.
I've already had one customer ask if I can produce a working demo of a linux solution that would work in the TechPrep labs they have. I'm not sure if anyone on the list is familiar with labs such as Computer Discovery, Career Discovery, TechPrep, Technology Applications, etc., but if anyone knows how to implement these in whole or in part using SuSe, I've got at least one school who'd like to see it.
Not familiar here, can you describe these labs/apps?
I'll have to see if I can get the boss to let me have a copy of the State Dept. requirements in order to provide a meaningful description. These labs generally have a Win2K3 file server, a teacher station (WinXP), and student stations (WinXP). Some schools have been using Novell instead of Win on the server. I haven't seen any Deep Black Magic involved in these labs. Users have roaming profiles managed from the server, which the teacher can manage remotely from the teacher station. As far as software goes, different labs use software such as Microtype, MS Office (or Works), Career Futures, etc. Some software is run from the server, and some on the local workstations. Since Novell seems to work as well as Win on the server, I'm assuming that there are few, if any, reasons why a linux server wouldn't be viable. The schools in this state have been hammered by virii and worms as long as I've been involved, and it causes unending headaches for them, which they gladly send my way. This alone has some of them keen on alternative ideas. I've been quietly testing knoppix CDs out on various computers and found that most of the workstations out there are fine with it. I tried a suse 9.1 live eval CD in one of the Gateway file servers we've been rolling out, and it came up more or less without incident, but I did notice a few non-standard messages being reported during the boot process. Does anyone know if it dumps details of the process to a spot I can retrieve from? -Rob
Rob Andrews wrote:
I tried a suse 9.1 live eval CD in one of the Gateway file servers we've been rolling out, and it came up more or less without incident, but I did notice a few non-standard messages being reported during the boot process. Does anyone know if it dumps details of the process to a spot I can retrieve from?
/var/log/messages /var/log/boot.msg /var/log/localmessages (probably mainly duplicates /var/log/messages) -- Alan Robertson <alanr@unix.sh> "Openness is the foundation and preservative of friendship... Let me claim from you at all times your undisguised opinions." - William Wilberforce
Did you read the following? An application of the Linux Terminal Server Project in Manitoba's largest high school http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7418 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7419 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5862 Liam Marshall wrote:
I have yet to receive a post from this group yet it is the one that interests me the most of the Suse lists.
Is it just that no one has anything to say?
I am switching the entire lab here at school over to Suse 9.1 and would have liked some input/comments/suggestions
Also might want to look into Kisok for setting up locked down environments i dont know if K-12 project runs on SUSE but it shouldnt take much to get it running i dont think. Dennis Once upon a time Thursday 27 May 2004 12:22 am, Carl Swanson wrote:
Did you read the following? An application of the Linux Terminal Server Project in Manitoba's largest high school http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7418 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7419 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5862
Liam Marshall wrote:
I have yet to receive a post from this group yet it is the one that interests me the most of the Suse lists.
Is it just that no one has anything to say?
I am switching the entire lab here at school over to Suse 9.1 and would have liked some input/comments/suggestions
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Alan Robertson
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Carl Swanson
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Dennis Gilmore
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Geoffrey
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Liam Marshall
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Rob Andrews
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steve