[opensuse-edu] Education projects in the openSUSE Buildservice
Hi First: my Name is Thorsten and I'm a trainee teacher in a school in germany. I'm currently trying to migrate some of our PCs to openSUSE - which works very well! Thanks to all! While searching for additional apps which are not part of the openSUSE-Education Add on DVD, I found a lot of "Education" projects in the openSUSE Build Service and now I'm a bit confused about the state of these different projects. I hope, somebody here can help me to get an overview about the different repositories. (Note: I know the official Education repository on www.opensuse-education.org already - I just want to get an overview how things work together in openSUSE ;-) I found the following projects (and I hope my suggestions about there status are true - otherwise, please correct me): 1) "Education" ...which is IMHO the "original" project (?) 2) Education:deskop ...which is the project for Desktop applications as described in the wiki. But this project doesn't contain so much packages as the Education project (?) 3) Education:server:Factory described as "This project is used by jfehlig to prepare packages for openSUSE:Factory submissions. Usually all package changes should get submitted here for review and testing first." But the project just contains the package moodle and two Novell employees as maintainers. What's the meaning of this project? 4) Education:server:OSS Announced as "Packages for the current stable Open School Server." - What is the "Open School Server"? Is this the Server from Extis? 5) isv:hp:education The description of this project sounds very interesting to me: "HP and Novell have joined forces to create the most compelling open source desktop solution for Schools. From the tremendous work of the openSUSE Education community, HP and Novell are looking to leverage the openSUSE Build Service to create a central place where educators and students alike will be able to find all the greatest open source software for Education." Currently I miss the announcement of this cooperation on the Novell or HP side. Can someone please point me to such an official press announcement? Does this mean, packages in this repository will be official maintained? But I'm a bit confused as I just see one maintainer of the Education project being part of the isv:hp:education project - and most of the project-members in isv:hp:education are from Novell or HP. But many packages in the HP-Repository are just symlinks to the Education or other projects. Is this intended? Why? 6) home:* Some home-Projects also "talk" about Education - some of those home-project maintainers are already part of the Education or HP-Project - so I think these are their "development" repositories. But other home-Project maintainers are not part of any project - what's the status here? Thanks in advance for your answers! With kind regards, Thorsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org
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First: my Name is Thorsten and I'm a trainee teacher in a school in germany. I'm currently trying to migrate some of our PCs to openSUSE - which works very well! Thanks to all!
While searching for additional apps which are not part of the openSUSE-Education Add on DVD, I found a lot of "Education" projects in the openSUSE Build Service and now I'm a bit confused about the state of these different projects. I hope, somebody here can help me to get an overview about the different repositories. (Note: I know the official Education repository on www.opensuse-education.org already - I just want to get an overview how things work together in openSUSE ;-)
I found the following projects (and I hope my suggestions about there status are true - otherwise, please correct me): 1) "Education" ...which is IMHO the "original" project (?)
indeed, you just need to add that one, but as you can see in release notes, that one may have unstable (or not well packaged) packages
2) Education:deskop ...which is the project for Desktop applications as described in the wiki. But this project doesn't contain so much packages as the Education project (?)
3) Education:server:Factory described as "This project is used by jfehlig to prepare packages for openSUSE:Factory submissions. Usually all package changes should get submitted here for review and testing first." But the project just contains the package moodle and two Novell employees as maintainers. What's the meaning of this project?
Education:Desktop and Education:server repositories has been merged in main Education repository. The packages not yet moved have problems. So you are Warn : DO NOT USE THEM.
4) Education:server:OSS Announced as "Packages for the current stable Open School Server." - What is the "Open School Server"? Is this the Server from Extis?
5) isv:hp:education The description of this project sounds very interesting to me: "HP and Novell have joined forces to create the most compelling open source desktop solution for Schools. From the tremendous work of the openSUSE Education community, HP and Novell are looking to leverage the openSUSE Build Service to create a central place where educators and students alike will be able to find all the greatest open source software for Education."
Currently I miss the announcement of this cooperation on the Novell or HP side. Can someone please point me to such an official press announcement? Does this mean, packages in this repository will be official maintained? But I'm a bit confused as I just see one maintainer of the Education project being part of the isv:hp:education project - and most of the project-members in isv:hp:education are from Novell or HP. But many packages in the HP-Repository are just symlinks to the Education or other projects. Is this intended? Why?
i miss something too... Lars can you help us? Cyberorg you?
6) home:* Some home-Projects also "talk" about Education - some of those home-project maintainers are already part of the Education or HP-Project - so I think these are their "development" repositories. But other home-Project maintainers are not part of any project - what's the status here?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
With kind regards, Thorsten
home projects are factory, you should NEVER use them. And even if you are sure of what are you doing you are warn. packages may be broken Andrea
Hi Andrea
Education:Desktop and Education:server repositories has been merged in main Education repository. The packages not yet moved have problems. So you are Warn : DO NOT USE THEM.
Ah! Thanks for clarifying!
5) isv:hp:education The description of this project sounds very interesting to me: "HP and Novell have joined forces to create the most compelling open source desktop solution for Schools. From the tremendous work of the openSUSE Education community, HP and Novell are looking to leverage the openSUSE Build Service to create a central place where educators and students alike will be able to find all the greatest open source software for Education."
Currently I miss the announcement of this cooperation on the Novell or HP side. Can someone please point me to such an official press announcement? Does this mean, packages in this repository will be official maintained? But I'm a bit confused as I just see one maintainer of the Education project being part of the isv:hp:education project - and most of the project-members in isv:hp:education are from Novell or HP. But many packages in the HP-Repository are just symlinks to the Education or other projects. Is this intended? Why?
Any new here? For me this sounds like Novell and HP start their own Education project - without working together with the community... With kind regards, Thorsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org
Hi Thorsten Sorry for the late reply - I was on vacation (and had sworn not to use any computer in this time ;-) On Samstag 08 November 2008 23:32:06 Thorsten Wagner wrote:
First: my Name is Thorsten and I'm a trainee teacher in a school in germany. I'm currently trying to migrate some of our PCs to openSUSE - which works very well! Thanks to all!
Welcome! Can you post some more technical details about your school? How many Clients, Servers, prefered Applications, etc.?
While searching for additional apps which are not part of the openSUSE-Education Add on DVD, I found a lot of "Education" projects in the openSUSE Build Service and now I'm a bit confused about the state of these different projects.
Yes, there are currently a lot of "Education" projects/packages which are not really part of the "real" openSUSE-Education. I'll contact the other authors and ask if they won't work together with us.
2) Education:deskop 3) Education:server:Factory
As Andrea already said: these two repositores are outdated (and hopefully deleted soon).
4) Education:server:OSS Announced as "Packages for the current stable Open School Server." - What is the "Open School Server"? Is this the Server from Extis?
Yes. (Note: the Open School Server is a SLES9 based server for schools.) Some users ask for additional packages - and I have created this repository for them as most of the packages need some patches to integrate well into the admin-frontend of the OSS.
5) isv:hp:education
Something for Lowry, our Partner Technology Manager, I think.
6) home:*
As Andrea already said: Really "hot" repos: those are development repos and should not used until you have the "go" from the original maintainer of the project/package. With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org
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