FW: [seul-edu] (FWD) Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft se ttlement
Maybe SUSE should be doing something similar in NHS/Microsoft case... -----Original Message----- From: Roger Dingledine To: seul-edu@seul.org Sent: 11/21/01 1:00 AM Subject: [seul-edu] (FWD) Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft settlement It's really a shame that Microsoft is going to get away with further extending its monopoly as part of its "punishment". Ah well, --Roger ----- Forwarded message from "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com> ----- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:07:00 -0800 Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: Doug Masson <dmasson@WELL.COM> Subject: Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft settlement I thought this was a nice piece of public relations from Red Hat: Subject: Red Hat proposes Alternative to Microsoft Settlement Red Hat Proposes to Enhance Microsoft Settlement Offer By Providing Open Source Software to All U.S. School Districts RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C., Nov 20, 2001 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Open Source leader proposes to provide software to every school district in the United States if Microsoft provides computing hardware for the 14,000 poorest school districts Red Hat, Inc. (Nasdaq:RHAT) today proposed an alternative to the settlement announced today of the class-action lawsuit against Microsoft. Red Hat offered to provide open-source software to every school district in the United States free of charge, encouraging Microsoft to redirect the money it would have spent on software into purchasing more hardware for the 14,000 poorest school districts. Under the Red Hat proposal, by removing Microsoft's higher-priced software from the settlement equation, Microsoft could provide the school districts with many more computers--greatly extending the benefits Microsoft seeks to provide school districts with their proposed settlement. Microsoft had proposed that, in settlement of class-action claims of price-gouging, the company donate computer hardware, software and support to 14,000 poor school districts throughout the United States. Under the proposed settlement, a substantial part of the value provided to schools would be in the form of Microsoft software. The Red Hat's alternative proposal includes the following: -- Microsoft redirects the value of their proposed software donation to the purchase of additional hardware for the school districts. This would increase the number of computers available under the original proposal from 200,000 to more than one million, and would increase the number of systems per school from approximately 14 to at least 70. -- Red Hat, Inc. will provide free of charge the open-source Red Hat Linux operating system, office applications and associated capabilities to any school system in the United States. -- Red Hat will provide online support for the software through the Red Hat Network. -- Unlike the Microsoft proposal, which has a five-year time limit at which point schools would have to pay Microsoft to renew their licenses and upgrade the software, the Red Hat proposal has no time limit. Red Hat will provide software upgrades through the Red Hat Network online distribution channel. A Win-Win Approach The Red Hat proposal achieves two important goals: improving the quality and accessibility of computing education in the nation's less-privileged schools, and preventing the extension of Microsoft's monopoly to the most-vulnerable users. "While we applaud Microsoft for raising the idea of helping poorer schools as part of the penalty phase of their conviction for monopolistic practices, we do not think that the remedy should be a mechanism by which Microsoft can further extend its monopoly," said Matthew Szulik, CEO of Red Hat. "Through this proposal all of the states and all of the schools can win, and Microsoft will achieve even greater success for its stated goal of helping schools. By providing schools with a software choice, Red Hat will enable Microsoft to provide many more computers to these schools. At the same time, the schools can accept this offer secure in the knowledge that they have not rewarded a monopolist by extending the monopoly. It's now up to Microsoft to demonstrate that they are truly serious about helping our schools." General information about Red Hat's support for education is available at www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/. ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request@listserv.aol.com ********************************************************************** --- end forwarded text
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:51:05AM -0000, Chris Puttick wrote:
Maybe SUSE should be doing something similar in NHS/Microsoft case...
<big snip> Well done on RedHat for exposing the rank hypocrisy of the proposed settlement & trying to get MS to cough up some /real/ money. This `extend the monopoly' settlement ranks alongside their settlement with the DOJ ie. `Behave yourselves for 5 years or...' <sound of sinister music> `...we'll ask you kindly to behave yourselves for another 2 years!' All the industry players should get together and donate what they can in a fanfare of publicity. ie. The hardware firms (Apple, Sun, IBM) out of date stock, software firms (Oracle, RH/Suse, etc) software, the open source community time and skills, and then tell MS to meet the retail value of it with hardware (without their crappy & worthless software on it). That way MS get leveraged out of schools and the rest get leveraged in, with schools being the big winners. Do the same with the NHS and that way the monopoly will quickly start to get eroded. It will be a fairly costly play for the firms but until they do something along those lines otherwise they will always be `also rans'. -- Frank *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Boroughbridge. Tel: 01423 323019 --------- PGP keyID: 0xC0B341A3 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/
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