Now I feel really stupid......
This has got to be the most embarrasing question I have ever asked, but as I wasn't potterring about at the command line level I decided to check out some man pages. Then I got stuck. How do you exit? Regards, Robb Bloomfield, RLS Network Administrator
Press the q key. Don't worry about asking it - when I first started using linux/man I ended up using CTRL + C to exit! After pressing every key under the sun I eventually discovered it was that! Quite simple when you know how, eh! Cheers, Matt Hinds -----Original Message----- From: Royal Latin School [mailto:rbloomfield@royallatin.schoolzone.co.uk] Sent: 08 November 2000 13:28 To: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Now I feel really stupid...... This has got to be the most embarrasing question I have ever asked, but as I wasn't potterring about at the command line level I decided to check out some man pages. Then I got stuck. How do you exit? Regards, Robb Bloomfield, RLS Network Administrator
Press the q key. Don't worry about asking it - when I first started using linux/man I ended up using CTRL + C to exit! After pressing every key under the sun I eventually discovered it was that! Quite simple when you know how, eh!
Heh, for my first few goes on Unix "CTRL+lots of keys on the left hand side of the keyboard" was how I got out of things. Note that pressing "h" while in "man" gives you whole list of options you can use. Rather too many to remember so all you need to mentally store away is the "h" ( "g" and "/" I find I use most often ). Note that these are actually the "less" commands, so useful in that program too. ( Just checked this on a Slackware 7.1 box, I would expect that the version of man and less used on SuSE is the same or similar ) -- Wenn es wert das Tun ist, ist es wert das Tun falsches schnelles Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
These are the kind of mild but irritating `gotchas' that happen when you begin. It might be fun to list them ... - we could create a small document of these ... On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Royal Latin School wrote:
This has got to be the most embarrasing question I have ever asked, but as I wasn't potterring about at the command line level I decided to check out some man pages. Then I got stuck. How do you exit?
Regards,
Robb Bloomfield, RLS Network Administrator
-- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger@suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------
Dear All Roger Whittaker wrote:
These are the kind of mild but irritating `gotchas' that happen when you begin. It might be fun to list them ... - we could create a small document of these ...
Previously I've sent stuff back to
PLEASE give us a list of common pitfalls... getting out of MAN was also one of the first big bugbears I came across, and it took me a while to find out about ctrl-C as well! (then I went on to try Vi, but lets not even go there!). Manuals and the like are fine, but they often take a bit of wading through, and some don't even list the most obvious questions a new user comes up against. Maybe something along the lines of "what to do if... " might be a nice few pages to keep handy for all of us strugglers...? Martin Dart -----Original Message----- From: richard@zetnet.co.uk [mailto:richard@zetnet.co.uk]On Behalf Of Richard Sent: 08 November 2000 15:06 To: Schools List Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Re: Now I feel really stupid...... Dear All Roger Whittaker wrote:
These are the kind of mild but irritating `gotchas' that happen when you begin. It might be fun to list them ... - we could create a small document of these ...
Previously I've sent stuff back to
iA little suggestion for Roger: How about a web page on the schools site distilling the wisdom expressed on this list? Even something as simple as a list of topics with links to the appropriate message numbers could be useful. TIA ;-) ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________ On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Richard wrote:
Dear All
Roger Whittaker wrote:
These are the kind of mild but irritating `gotchas' that happen when you begin. It might be fun to list them ... - we could create a small document of these ...
Previously I've sent stuff back to
and they have listened to some of it. Other times they've had a good giggle :) The q key was one of the things that completely crippled me for six months. No one understood why I couldn't use man pages and no one was interested in helping.
I s'pose a page that listed these things might help ?
Thanks
-- Richard
PLEASE give us a list of common pitfalls... getting out of MAN was also one of the first big bugbears I came across, and it took me a while to find out about ctrl-C as well! (then I went on to try Vi, but lets not even go there!).
Manuals and the like are fine, but they often take a bit of wading through, and some don't even list the most obvious questions a new user comes up against. Maybe something along the lines of "what to do if... "
might be a nice few pages to keep handy for all of us strugglers...?
There is a work in (slow) progress roughly along these lines at: http://www.bluejava.net/nlug/ Comments welcome, as are submissions. And while I don't want to make any promises a "How do I find help on, or exit from, program X" section might be an idea.... ( Sorry Roger, this is drifting off being SuSE specific ) -- Wenn es wert das Tun ist, ist es wert das Tun falsches schnelles Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Dear All Nick Drage wrote:
( Sorry Roger, this is drifting off being SuSE specific )
Should point out that when I wrote in about the q key and related things it was SuSE Gmbh who helped me out. Red Hat and the Debian people would seem to be signed up the the official secrets act in comparison :) At that time SuSE Ltd didn't exist. Thanks -- Richard
At 03:54 PM 11/8/00 +0000, Martin Dart wrote:
PLEASE give us a list of common pitfalls... getting out of MAN was also one of the first big bugbears I came across, and it took me a while to find out about ctrl-C as well! (then I went on to try Vi, but lets not even go there!).
As an undergrad I had the "joy" of using some logic programming software (the trauma beiing far too great for me to remember the name!!) which was programmed by "asserting" statements. Statements it recognised were responded to by "yes" and those it did not by "no". Attempting to get out of it would have a dialogue like:
quit no exit no terminate no bye no ^c no ^Z $ ps -a 1234 9998 $ kill 1234
:o) jay
I hope to do at least some of this when I get time. There will also soon be a *new* web site for schools - watch this space ... On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Giles Nunn wrote:
iA little suggestion for Roger:
How about a web page on the schools site distilling the wisdom expressed on this list? Even something as simple as a list of topics with links to the appropriate message numbers could be useful.
TIA ;-) ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Richard wrote:
Dear All
Roger Whittaker wrote:
These are the kind of mild but irritating `gotchas' that happen when you begin. It might be fun to list them ... - we could create a small document of these ...
Previously I've sent stuff back to
and they have listened to some of it. Other times they've had a good giggle :) The q key was one of the things that completely crippled me for six months. No one understood why I couldn't use man pages and no one was interested in helping.
I s'pose a page that listed these things might help ?
Thanks
-- Richard
-- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger@suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------
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Giles Nunn
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Jason Good
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Martin Dart
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Matt Hinds
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Nick Drage
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Richard
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Roger Whittaker
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