RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SchoolTool
SchoolTool has been actively pursued by schools from other countries, and as such is not ready for UK use. However, handling the data input from SIMS would be childs play - all that is needed is to request the primary schools or LEA to output the transfer as CSV or some other open format, writing a script to input that into SchoolTool (or some other school MIS system). It would not take a lot of input to move SchoolTool towards UK readiness. The backing of an LEA would be nice, that of a trail-blazing school district possibly even better. Having it support Cymraeg would be very little work... -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Edmondson [mailto:gareth@indigo-cube.co.uk] Sent: Sat 1/8/2005 7:22 PM To: ian.lynch@zmsl.com Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SchoolTool Hi, I usually lurk on this list, but I have just read a mail where Ian Lynch mentions School Tool. Our school uses SIMS.Net - and we have had tremendous bad luck with it since it was implemented several weeks ago. Unfortunately, even though I am the Head of ICT, and the Network Infrastructure manager, I have no input into the admin side of things. Shame. My question is simple - does anyone here use School Tool, or has anyone managed to convince their SMT to adopt this open source installation? I could push all I want in my school, but unless it was able to import from SIMS, which is still used by our feeder primaries, I cannot see our school move. Best wishes Gareth Edmondson Head of ICT Ysgol Gyfun Gwyr Swansea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@suse.com This message may contain information and/or data that is confidential and legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any use, publication, reproduction or dissemination is strictly prohibited and may violate certain laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy this and all copies of this message and/or data. The content of this message has been scanned by MailPatrol for unacceptable language and inappropriate content. European Electronique limited thanks you in anticipation of your co-operation. MailPatrol is a fully managed service that offers your organisation the ability to monitor and enforce your Acceptable Usage Policy. For further information regarding the MailPatrol services contact the European Electronique Sales Enquiry line on 0845 345 8340 (local rate) or email sales@euroele.com
On Sunday 09 January 2005 09:11, Chris Puttick wrote:
SchoolTool has been actively pursued by schools from other countries, and as such is not ready for UK use. However, handling the data input from SIMS would be childs play - all that is needed is to request the primary schools or LEA to output the transfer as CSV or some other open format, writing a script to input that into SchoolTool (or some other school MIS system).
I have been struggling with dorlrn (www.dotlrn.org based on OpenACS) which looks promising as a SIMS replacement but I have yet to get it to work for me on SuSE or RedHat. Has anyone had success with this?
It would not take a lot of input to move SchoolTool towards UK readiness. The backing of an LEA would be nice, that of a trail-blazing school district possibly even better. Having it support Cymraeg would be very little work...
-----Original Message----- From: Gareth Edmondson [mailto:gareth@indigo-cube.co.uk] Sent: Sat 1/8/2005 7:22 PM To: ian.lynch@zmsl.com Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SchoolTool
Hi,
I usually lurk on this list, but I have just read a mail where Ian Lynch mentions School Tool. Our school uses SIMS.Net - and we have had tremendous bad luck with it since it was implemented several weeks ago. Unfortunately, even though I am the Head of ICT, and the Network Infrastructure manager, I have no input into the admin side of things. Shame.
My question is simple - does anyone here use School Tool, or has anyone managed to convince their SMT to adopt this open source installation? I could push all I want in my school, but unless it was able to import from SIMS, which is still used by our feeder primaries, I cannot see our school move.
Best wishes
Gareth Edmondson Head of ICT Ysgol Gyfun Gwyr Swansea
-- De omnibus dubitandum
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"Chris Puttick"
SchoolTool has been actively pursued by schools from other countries, and as such is not ready for UK use. However, handling the data input from SIMS would be childs play - all that is needed is to request the primary schools or LEA to output the transfer as CSV or some other open format, writing a script to input that into SchoolTool (or some other school MIS system).
I thought SIMS had quite a large number of tables, each which would need to be transferred separately by CSV no? Would you not need to know the cross ref ID connections etc? Or would you say an import was just going to take basic data and redo all those tasks? How about the PLASC returns? Also the timetabling module is quite extensive. Hmm! Maybe I should have a look at SchoolTool first? I think some companies showing at BETT have licensed the SIMS.net API e.g. ProGrid with their Talmos their "Teaching and Learning Management System" that handles timetables from SIMS. They also sell ProCMS a server side CMS. It really is starting to hot up in this area for schools and despite SCORM/IMS and Shibboleth I think once a school buys into one companies CMS/LMS/VLE/MLE etc. etc. its going to be hard for them to consider change. -- Colin McQueen
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Chris Puttick
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