Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses
*grins* Well.. you caught me out. What you really should have is a network card to the network, and an ISDN card to the internet (or modem or whatever). I was getting confused with my own plans to put a firewall between a network and a router (which would require two network cards, one connected to network and one connected to router). If you want a proxy server, you don't need anything this complicated. I assume you mean a caching proxy server, like squid? It sits just like any machine on the network (only 1 network card) and handles all http requests for other machines (and ftp etc if set up right). If you're interested in setting up a squid caching proxy server I have some files I wrote up for when I did it, a sort of how-to. There are good instructions online.. but I found mine catered to me better, because they explained what I would have needed to know when starting. We all start from different points, and if you can't get any good info anywhere else, I'd be more than happy to post you my file, or even to the list if anyone else is interested? --Azrael p.s. It's Azrael and not Azarael. And it's supposed to be the Angel of Death and not a minor deity. But I'll forgive you your mistake and let you.. live :)
From: "Adrian Wells" <adrian-wells@175-nbr.freeserve.co.uk> Reply-To: "Adrian Wells" <adrian-wells@175-nbr.freeserve.co.uk> To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:58:22 -0000
Hi, Azarael Angel Of Death,
(Never though I would be greeting a minor deity on the Internet! It looks like the use of SuSE is truly universal! Inter-galactic networking must bring many problems of it's own though.)
I am a little confused now.
1) how could I connect to the Internet via a Network Interface Card (NIC). I would always assume Modem, ISDN terminal adapter etc.
2) I have a server and an ISDN router connected to my network, both the server and the router have single NIC. I wish to set up a local proxy server and assumed that this would 'sit' on the network via a NIC. Do I really have to isolate the network traffic, user/proxy and Proxy/router? I can see that this could have advantages, but depending upon geography and topology this could cause problems.
3) Thank you for explaining DTE, I thought it meant "Data Terminal Equipment" since we were talking about communications.
Before answering great Azarael, may I remind you that to be human is to ere! or some other excuse!
Kind Regards Adrian Wells
2) More to the point, Is it really necessary or just good practice to use a second network card when connecting to a router? The implication below is that it IS necessary.
One network card to be plugged into the Internet, one network card to be plugged into the network. I think you may be confused with specialist routers, a specialist router connects to the Internet and your network, but you don't need to put a 'second network card' into it, as it already has two. What is being written about here is setting up a PC with two network cards, the correct protocols, and then connecting it to network and Internet and using it as a router. DTE? *coughs* I mean, does this explain? :)
--Azrael
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Yo! Angel!
*grins* Well.. you caught me out.<< No intention to try and catch anyboady out. Having said that I must be mistaken, and you a super being and all kind of confused me! :-)
What you really should have is a network card to the network, and an ISDN card to the internet (or modem or whatever). I was getting confused with my own plans to put a firewall between a network and a router (which would require two network cards, one connected to network and one connected to router). If you want a proxy server, you don't need anything this complicated. I assume you mean a caching proxy server, like squid? It sits just like any machine on the network (only 1 network card) and handles all http requests for other machines (and ftp etc if set up right). If you're interested in setting up a squid caching proxy server I have some files I wrote up for when I did it, a sort of how-to. There are good instructions online.. but I found mine catered to me better, because they explained what I would have needed to know when starting. We all start from different points, and if you can't get any good info anywhere else, I'd be more than happy to post you my file, or even to the list if anyone else is interested?
--Azrael
p.s. It's Azrael and not Azarael. And it's supposed to be the Angel of Death and not a minor deity. But I'll forgive you your mistake and let you..
:)
From: "Adrian Wells" <adrian-wells@175-nbr.freeserve.co.uk> Reply-To: "Adrian Wells" <adrian-wells@175-nbr.freeserve.co.uk> To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:58:22 -0000
Hi, Azarael Angel Of Death,
(Never though I would be greeting a minor deity on the Internet! It looks like the use of SuSE is truly universal! Inter-galactic networking must bring many problems of it's own though.)
I am a little confused now.
1) how could I connect to the Internet via a Network Interface Card (NIC). I would always assume Modem, ISDN terminal adapter etc.
2) I have a server and an ISDN router connected to my network, both the server and the router have single NIC. I wish to set up a local proxy server and assumed that this would 'sit' on the network via a NIC. Do I really have to isolate the network traffic, user/proxy and Proxy/router? I can see
this could have advantages, but depending upon geography and topology
Sorry for the misspelling, anyone hailing from outside Weston-super-mare IS considered a minor deity, no mater your true status in myth. I would think that your instructions would be very welcome, but were not up to keeping them in an ark if that's okay, but I do have a very nice zip drive it that will suit your needs. It's suprising how difficult it is to write instructions that are meaningful and actually work. I find most of the 'how to' files rather hard work as they often leave out (what is to the author) the most obvious parts (and these are often the crux of the matter) or else they include mistakes that one has to accept as correct, causing all sorts of frustration. One often struggles with something, vowing to write it down and then after the problem is resolved decide not to make notes as it ought to be obvious next time! Six months down the line and it's back to square one! Don't be too busy over Christmas, will you Azrael? Adrian live that this
could cause problems.
3) Thank you for explaining DTE, I thought it meant "Data Terminal Equipment" since we were talking about communications.
Before answering great Azarael, may I remind you that to be human is to ere! or some other excuse!
Kind Regards Adrian Wells
2) More to the point, Is it really necessary or just good practice to use a second network card when connecting to a router? The implication below is that it IS necessary.
One network card to be plugged into the Internet, one network card to be plugged into the network. I think you may be confused with specialist routers, a specialist router connects to the Internet and your network, but you don't need to put a 'second network card' into it, as it already has two. What is being written about here is setting up a PC with two network cards, the correct protocols, and then connecting it to network and Internet and using it as a router. DTE? *coughs* I mean, does this explain? :)
--Azrael
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