Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes

Anyone who has not already looked at these would do well to invest a few minutes - very interesting, thanks. I'm not convinced that thin client is the way I want to go, and still not convinced that most of it's supposed virtues are revenant today. I know that the article says that it's a personal view, but some of the arguments were pretty thin (sorry no pun intended!). Maybe I should read it again. I've not been to schoolforge for a long time and I have to say, playing devils advocate, the left hand column could have so many more entries and the right hand column could hardly be more sparse, even with the wine entries! Although the software listed is very strong, it's hardly an advert for shedding windows! :-( It would seem that big, generic apps are not the problem as most 'business' type software tends to have a gnu/linux equivilent. The big problem are these ex teachers sitting in the middle of dartmoor, knocking out pc versions of their BBC micro software for Sup Ed and the like. I'm sure that these will not be given up easily by the departments that know and love them! I would also imagine that they would be unlikly to give up the income and move to open source nor invest the time to become multi platform. Kind regards Adrian Wells

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 11:22, adrian.wells wrote:
That is exactly the argument for thin client. Low cost productivity tools everywhere and fat clients running Windows for specialist apps where needed. If you want a cyber cafe in the library a 15 station thin client network costing under 5k is a good way to do it. Also in libraries where fan noise is a nuisance and mostly the machine is used for Internet research and producing documents. Target the technology on need rather than assuming everything has to run everything. -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch@zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

--- "adrian.wells" <adrian.wells@sidcot.org.uk> wrote:
*cough* -- and you find something wrong with "View" and "Wordwise"? :) -- Thomas Adam ===== "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net "<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

I suppose that a measure of something's popularity can be inferred by the sort of Google hit's it gets? :-) I remember introducing that to typists! How they quaked! New-fangled computers! And then we had a job prying the Beebs out of their hands! :-) Adrian

Adrian, On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 11:22, adrian.wells wrote:
"Some educators will cite the lack of traditional educational packages for Linux that teach reading or math with funny rabbits that wink at you and say "Good job!" I just don't think we need to go there. Teachers don't need cute teaching applications. They just need computers that work and provide basic access to the software we all use everyday". Best regards, John Ingleby ************ Webmaster - www.schoolforge.org.uk

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 11:22, adrian.wells wrote:
That is exactly the argument for thin client. Low cost productivity tools everywhere and fat clients running Windows for specialist apps where needed. If you want a cyber cafe in the library a 15 station thin client network costing under 5k is a good way to do it. Also in libraries where fan noise is a nuisance and mostly the machine is used for Internet research and producing documents. Target the technology on need rather than assuming everything has to run everything. -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch@zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

--- "adrian.wells" <adrian.wells@sidcot.org.uk> wrote:
*cough* -- and you find something wrong with "View" and "Wordwise"? :) -- Thomas Adam ===== "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net "<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

I suppose that a measure of something's popularity can be inferred by the sort of Google hit's it gets? :-) I remember introducing that to typists! How they quaked! New-fangled computers! And then we had a job prying the Beebs out of their hands! :-) Adrian

Adrian, On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 11:22, adrian.wells wrote:
"Some educators will cite the lack of traditional educational packages for Linux that teach reading or math with funny rabbits that wink at you and say "Good job!" I just don't think we need to go there. Teachers don't need cute teaching applications. They just need computers that work and provide basic access to the software we all use everyday". Best regards, John Ingleby ************ Webmaster - www.schoolforge.org.uk
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Adrian Wells
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adrian.wells
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Ian Lynch
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John Ingleby
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Thomas Adam