RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet
We have gigabit... and I'm not joking... -----Original Message----- From: Robb Bloomfield To: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Sent: 5/14/03 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet
We have 100Mb broadband
Bl**dy hell!!! really?!?! What are you using to see whether a user has visited a site, what is your reporting tool? Our users authenticate with the proxy, and that is what tells us what they've been doing, and controls their access. -----Original Message----- From: crowhurst [mailto:crowhurst@hatchend.harrow.sch.uk] Sent: Wed 14/05/2003 10:47 To: suse-linux-uk-schools Cc: Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet Well currently we don't have one! At least not on site - Each client has an ip in the range 10.112.44.x with the proxy being at a remote site. It all seems to work quite happily though. . Someone told our head of it that our proxy would be slowing it down (which I had my doubts about but still...) so we had the upheaval of changing it all about so that each client talked directly to our broadband providers proxy. I'm not sure that the way you have yours is suitable for us though. Let me clarify: I need to be able to say that user x did/did not look at the site www.somethingdodgy.com I don't want each user to have a "Windows account" and a "Linux Account" so want to be able to use the username/password from the win2k domain. for both. It is each individual user that needs to authenticate. cheers, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robb Bloomfield" <rebloomfield@royallatin.bucks.sch.uk> To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet > Let me clarify slightly... > > The proxy used to use our NT4 server to authenticate, so we only had one username and password... then we moved to Active Directory without knowing that IGEAR can't talk to it, so we had to set up proxy accounts, hence two usernames and passwords. > > Each student is fully accountable, as our Linux clients with Konqueror are able to pick up the proxy and authenticate quite happily. I can also manage the proxy via its web interface using Linux.... > > What are you using for a proxy? > > -----Original Message----- > From: crowhurst [mailto:crowhurst@hatchend.harrow.sch.uk] > Sent: Wed 14/05/2003 10:21 > To: Robb Bloomfield > Cc: > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet > > > > According to our Grid for Learning T&C's each user must be accountable for > what he/she has viewed on the net. Authenticating them against their Win2k > domain usernames, using SAMBA was best way I thought, but any other views > on this anyone? > > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robb Bloomfield" <rebloomfield@royallatin.bucks.sch.uk> > To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:18 AM > Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet > > > > The machines should be fine to run just a web browser, and I would say > that depending on your setup, you wouldn't even need a SAMBA server. We're > using an I-GEAR proxy through our local grid for learning, which works no > problem on linux clients. The authentication is done by the proxy, as it > can't query Active Directory in it's current build.... > > > > HTH, > > > > Robb > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: crowhurst [mailto:crowhurst@hatchend.harrow.sch.uk] > > Sent: Wed 14/05/2003 10:08 > > To: suse-linux-uk-schools > > Cc: > > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using older machines for the internet > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Whilst I have played a little with Linux over the years, I wouldn't say I > > was an expert by any means, and I have just joined this list. > > > > I work for a school in London, and we have a pile of Pentium 200 machines, > > with 32MB and 2Gb disks gathering dust in the corner. > > > > Rather than bin them I am keen to put them to good use as internet > terminals > > (probably fat client) > > > > We are going to be running a RM Connect 3 network, that is Win2k/XP as our > > main network. The users would have to be authenticated by the Win2k > domain, > > but other than that I cant foresee any restrictions. > > > > Would these machines be able to cope with this? They would only need to > run > > a web browser, and possibly email. So nothing fancy. Just Log In > Browse > > internet > Log off > > > > I also have the use of a 300MHz server 256MB 10Gb. > > > > I figured I could use the server as a samba server, which will allow me to > > authenticate to the Win2k domain I think, with the clients running a > > stripped down GUI with a browser. > > > > Any ideas on the best GUI/browser combination to use? > > > > > > Anyone tried something like this? I'd like to hear from you! > > > > And any other ideas/advice/input is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks all, > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@suse.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@suse.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@suse.com
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 11:07, Chris Puttick wrote:
We have gigabit... and I'm not joking...
But do all the up stream connections have gigabit? If not you will surely get limitations in downloads etc from other sites with slower connections. Mind it should still enable masses of user simultaneous fast parallel connections. As a matter of interest, who is the ISP and how much does it cost? -- ian <ian.lynch2@ntlworld.com>
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:45:10AM +0100, ian wrote:
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 11:07, Chris Puttick wrote:
We have gigabit... and I'm not joking...
But do all the up stream connections have gigabit? If not you will surely get limitations in downloads etc from other sites with slower connections. Mind it should still enable masses of user simultaneous fast parallel connections. As a matter of interest, who is the ISP and how much does it cost?
IIRC Chris uses UKERNA. Though 1G sounds like a direct connection onto the SuperJANET backbone. Most likely through UMCC, which IIRC is a JANET regional NOC site. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
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