RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Latest on my LEA's plans for admin sy stems.
Role based security is on the DB side - bit like groups in network logons. Makes for easier admin as you can just give a user a role or roles and that gives them the appropriate accesses. Not clever... Postgre can do it... -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans To: suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com Sent: 4/28/03 2:27 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Latest on my LEA's plans for admin systems. In their latest newslatter they say from more things about SIMS.net, apparently copied straight from Capita's marketing department. Anyway havn't Microsoft just dropped using *.net <snip>
Supports personalised user accounts and role-based security, curriculum management, school calender management and attendance code management.
What is "role-based security". What about security tied to workstations and users? Right near the end we have the only apparent innovation, the calender... -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 02:52:28PM +0100, Chris Puttick wrote:
Role based security is on the DB side - bit like groups in network logons. Makes for easier admin as you can just give a user a role or roles and that gives them the appropriate accesses.
Not clever... Postgre can do it...
Sounds like this is heading for the level of marketing for a car which offers features along the line of "an internal combustion engine", "pnumatic tyres", "hydrolically actuated brakes", etc... -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
Mark Evans <mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk> wrote:
Sounds like this is heading for the level of marketing for a car which offers features along the line of "an internal combustion engine", "pnumatic tyres", "hydrolically actuated brakes", etc...
Far be it from me to promote non-copyleft material, but there's a lovely Dilbert cartoon in which Dogbert sets himself up as a financial adviser and promotes the idea that financial products are too complicated for normal people so customers should just give all their money to him. I think we're in danger of heading the same way here. The obvious step to me is to start educating people. That shouldn't be a problem for education, should it? I don't know much about LEA publications, not being in that sector, but would they publish a reply where you ask these sort of questions as part of their next bulletin? -- MJR http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ IM: slef@jabber.at This is my home web site. This for Jabber Messaging. How's my writing? Let me know via any of my contact details.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 02:42:10PM -0000, MJ Ray wrote:
Mark Evans <mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk> wrote:
Sounds like this is heading for the level of marketing for a car which offers features along the line of "an internal combustion engine", "pnumatic tyres", "hydrolically actuated brakes", etc...
Far be it from me to promote non-copyleft material, but there's a lovely Dilbert cartoon in which Dogbert sets himself up as a financial adviser and promotes the idea that financial products are too complicated for normal people so customers should just give all their money to him.
The idea of marketing something by trumpeting some "feature" which is either part of the basic function or utterly irrelevent goes back at least 50 years. Even to the point where radios contained components not actually connected to anything because the greater the number of transistors the better the radio...
I think we're in danger of heading the same way here. The obvious
As in "School admin systems are so complex only a large company, like CES, could possibly do them correctly. (Pay no attention to those people in Essex and Manchester."
step to me is to start educating people. That shouldn't be a problem for education, should it? I don't know much about LEA publications, not being in that sector, but would they publish a reply where you ask these sort of questions as part of their next bulletin?
Taking comments from readers, what a strange and democratic idea... Anyway that might mean that they'd need to trim down their "agony aunt" sections with such obviously made authors. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
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