Hi Alexey, On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

openSUSE documentation (start-up guide) structure is incorrect and it lacks a lot in Part II.

what about filing a bug report on these? Just stating the structure does not meet your ideas is a bit vague :) It would help us a lot to be able to understand what exactly you (and possibly others) are missing there.

openSUSE documentation does explain: (start-up guide)

-ls -vi (lacks link to vimtutor, should be added to section 8.7.1)

hmmm, either we have added it for the Enterprise release of the doc or you missed the link. It is in there and it will continue to be so in 10.3 for sure. It would indeed be a shame, if it wouldn't be in there.

-cd -mkdir -rmdir -su -touch -find -locate -redirection & pipes -cp -mv -chmod -chown

openSUSE documentation does not explain: (start-up guide)

-archiving with tar -job control in bash -hardlinks and softlinks -process control (ps, kill, killall, top, nice, renice, ...)

hmmm? These items may not be covered in the Start-up Guide, but please check the Reference guide and again help us by opening a bug report against the existing doc. We'll be happy to oblige.

-building and installing Free Software (from .tar.gz)

this item would indeed be a good one to start from for LfL. But then again, you'd never have a procedure that matches all tar packages. Packages may come with their own special set of instructions in their README. And it's arguable whether an entirely new newbie really is up to compiling his own packages.

-runlevels (very poor explanation in SUSE)

hmmm, not in Start-up, but have you checked the Reference manual? If so, please help us by filing a bug report so we can take your points and improve the existing stuff.

Those are important things explained very well in Mandrake Docs.

-mc

point taken. The old - really old (SUSE Linux 7.x) - docs had a very nice chapter on mc. I could try and investigate whether we could use these sources and publish them as part of LfL. They'd be a good starting point, at least.

-screen

Another point taken. screen really is one cool app :) Do you want to attack the issue and cover it in LfL or would you like to see it in the official doc? Our team will be happy to start brainstorming about the issues brought up and I am pretty sure we'll find a solution that really flies and that doesn't make neither you nor us drown in work. Thanks for starting this discussion! Jana -- Jana Jaeger jjaeger@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Documentation Maxfeldstr. 5 +49 (0) 911 74053-0 D-90409 Nuernberg http://www.novell.com/linux SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)