Re: [opensuse-contrib] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Czech Packagers Team - Contrib repository notes
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Vincent Untz schrieb:
Le lundi 08 décembre 2008, à 14:27 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
Problem: There is work to be done Solution: Someone needs to work on it
Apparently no one has any real interest in doing it. Otherwise someone would step up. This is really not as simple as this. I do have interest in it, but no time to push for it, for example.
Yep, that's probably the same for most of us :-(
As you know out of pure interest nothing gets done. I'm sure there are many people interested in world-peace :)
I would also guess that some people are interested in Contrib, but just don't know how to make it happen (or don't feel they are empowered to do this).
Yeah, I'm not sure what the next steps are. From my repos I have for example two candidates which could fit into Contrib and I know some other apps which should be there IMHO but are maintained somewhere else in OBS. But currently I have no idea what we are really waiting for. Is it a finished policy or is it just that we are waiting for people pushing packages into Contrib?
Thats what I'm saying! Get your stuff in there and the we figure the rest[1] out. Time has shown that the other approach (figuring everything out before we package in that repo) failed miserably. Get going. I will :) Henne [1] Submission and general policy and stuff -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hey, Henne Vogelsang schrieb:
This is really not as simple as this. I do have interest in it, but no time to push for it, for example. Yep, that's probably the same for most of us :-(
As you know out of pure interest nothing gets done. I'm sure there are many people interested in world-peace :)
I guess you know as well but I haven't seen you driving this up to now ;-) No need to blame each other.
Thats what I'm saying! Get your stuff in there and the we figure the rest[1] out.
Time has shown that the other approach (figuring everything out before we package in that repo) failed miserably.
Get going. I will :)
Ok, so a little bit of process is needed though: do we only _link packages or is it ok to maintain directly in Contrib? Whom to contact to add a link or a package with permissions? (I know there is a list of people with write access but pinging one after the other until someone active is found is not really a good process). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Henne Vogelsang schrieb:
This is really not as simple as this. I do have interest in it, but no time to push for it, for example.
Yep, that's probably the same for most of us :-(
As you know out of pure interest nothing gets done. I'm sure there are many people interested in world-peace :)
I guess you know as well but I haven't seen you driving this up to now ;-) No need to blame each other.
I don't blame anyone. Especially not you. That i would never dare :)
Thats what I'm saying! Get your stuff in there and the we figure the rest[1] out.
Time has shown that the other approach (figuring everything out before we package in that repo) failed miserably.
Get going. I will :)
Ok, so a little bit of process is needed though: do we only _link packages or is it ok to maintain directly in Contrib?
The current discussion says you have to maintain in Contrib.
Whom to contact to add a link or a package with permissions?
The current discussion says you have to send an email to opensuse-contrib[1]. I think this needs to be changed to use osc submitreq. But for now i would send emails. Henne [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/Adding_new_packages -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 of December 2008 15:54:41 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hey,
Henne Vogelsang schrieb:
This is really not as simple as this. I do have interest in it, but no time to push for it, for example.
Yep, that's probably the same for most of us :-(
As you know out of pure interest nothing gets done. I'm sure there are many people interested in world-peace :)
I guess you know as well but I haven't seen you driving this up to now ;-) No need to blame each other.
Thats what I'm saying! Get your stuff in there and the we figure the rest[1] out.
Time has shown that the other approach (figuring everything out before we package in that repo) failed miserably.
Get going. I will :)
Ok, so a little bit of process is needed though: do we only _link packages or is it ok to maintain directly in Contrib?
We discussed a situation when Contrib was released - the good approach is that maintainers will lost an ownership to packages in Contrib:/version and all maintenance will be done via sumitreq. So linking is better practice (and you can build same packages for many other repositories).
Whom to contact to add a link or a package with permissions?
Read http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/Adding_new_packages
(I know there is a list of people with write access but pinging one after the other until someone active is found is not really a good process).
Wolfgang Best regards Michal Vyskocil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Michal Vyskocil schrieb:
Ok, so a little bit of process is needed though: do we only _link packages or is it ok to maintain directly in Contrib?
We discussed a situation when Contrib was released - the good approach is that maintainers will lost an ownership to packages in Contrib:/version and all maintenance will be done via sumitreq. So linking is better practice (and you can build same packages for many other repositories).
Hmm, I agree that links are better practice in certain cases but not always. And can easily link to Contrib from other projects so no need to have a home:X:Contrib project and in many cases it only causes overhead by another needed home project (or at least package which has to be built). I absolutely agree for the "branched" Contrib repos for released distributions though. And I also don't argue against using submitreq to patch packages in Contrib but I don't see a reason why the packages in Factory:Contrib! need to be linked to some home:X package. My personal proposal would be to let people choose where they want to maintain the package. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 of December 2008 16:23:07 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hmm, I agree that links are better practice in certain cases but not always. And can easily link to Contrib from other projects so no need to have a home:X:Contrib project and in many cases it only causes overhead
Yes it's also possible to use any other OBS repository - home:X:Contrib was just an example.
Wolfgang
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