On čt 4. června 2009, Michal Vyskocil wrote:
On Wednesday 03 of June 2009 18:37:10 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
darn you Michal i thought i could have a quick trip home/dinner in between the mails to -factory and -contrib. You where way to fast! ;)
Sorry, but I'm glad that you sent the proposal to Factory, so we could start to discuss about this repository asap. ;-)
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
2.) drop Contrib and move all packages to appropiate devel project and Factory
I choose this.
Contrib was created especially because Factory people disallow community to maintain openSUSE packages. Since the original problem is gone, there is no point of having contrib.
That was my argument as well. The best idea i heard so far for Contrib after the opening of Factory was to use it as a kind of Beginners Repository. For packagers that don't want to have the huge burden of the strict maintenance policy (which might get revised in the future) that Factory has. I'm all for this!
I don't like the term "Beginners Repository". Contrib should be an equivalent of Ubuntu's universe [1] - repository with no guarantee of support.
In Factory we guarantee (at least) security updates for almost 2 years, which must be backended by someone from Novell. And community maintainers are not interested in something like backporting of patches to 2 years old piece of software running on 2 years old distribution, so this will be probably done by Novell employers.
I'd say that maintaining a package in Factory means a commitment to provide security fixes that don't break compatibility - i.e. backporting of patches. This rule should be valid for whole community, including Novell as a part of the community.
So instead of changing of existing rules for Factory, we could have Novell supported Factory and community based Contrib with no guarantee of support and no required Novell backend in case of troubles.
IMHO security bugs should be fixed for contrib too, but it is a big difference in the required time and/or knowledges to fix the bug by version upgrade or by backporting the patch.
[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components
Best regards Michal Vyskocil
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