On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:25:02AM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
on 06/04/2009 08:36 AM Michal Vyskocil wrote:
On Wednesday 03 of June 2009 18:37:10 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
2.) drop Contrib and move all packages to appropiate devel project and Factory I choose this.
Contrib was created especially because Factory people disallow community to maintain openSUSE packages. Since the original problem is gone, there is no point of having contrib. That was my argument as well. The best idea i heard so far for Contrib after the opening of Factory was to use it as a kind of Beginners Repository. For packagers that don't want to have the huge burden of the strict maintenance policy (which might get revised in the future) that Factory has. I'm all for this!
Well, not only beginners, but also some of the experienced packagers do not want to submit their packages to current Contrib, because they do not want/don't have time to do maintenance updates like we do in Factory.
I don't like the term "Beginners Repository". Contrib should be an equivalent of Ubuntu's universe [1] - repository with no guarantee of support.
Of course we could.
In Factory we guarantee (at least) security updates for almost 2 years, which must be backended by someone from Novell.
The last part is not true anymore. It must be backed by someone from the openSUSE project's team that maintains this package.
And community maintainers are not interested in something like backporting of patches to 2 years old piece of software running on 2 years old distribution, so this will be probably done by Novell employers.
A maintainer is a maintainer is a maintainer. Currently the tasks of a maintainer for a package in Factory includes maintenance for released products.
I think we all agree on this.
No matter if he is employed by Novell or not. If someone does not want to do this then he can't become a maintainer.
ACK as well. But why not provide something with less strict policy (yes, I mean Contrib), but which still has at least some rules and is IMO much more usable than spread ad-hoc home:* projects with unknown quality?
So instead of changing of existing rules for Factory, we could have Novell supported Factory and community based Contrib with no guarantee of support and no required Novell backend in case of troubles.
Again: There is no required backend from Novell for Factory. This is, after the bundling of devel projects, the second big thing we are about to change.
Henne
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