[opensuse-conference] Beta testers needed
Hi all, Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission. No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for. The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin. Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue. For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem With this, let the testing begin. Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
Can we share it on G+ or in FB in case there are people out there to help more? 2013/2/7 Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com>:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Can we share it on G+ or in FB in case there are people out there to help more?
I'd prefer not. I worry that people in the public might mistakenly think that it's the real registration/CFP, when it's really just a matter of shaking out the remaining bugs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
ok :D 2013/2/7 Matt Barringer <matt@incoherent.de>:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Can we share it on G+ or in FB in case there are people out there to help more?
I'd prefer not. I worry that people in the public might mistakenly think that it's the real registration/CFP, when it's really just a matter of shaking out the remaining bugs.
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On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something... * Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D * where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference ** joining party or not ** what days will you be there ** do you use conference hotel or not ** join mailing list or not ** etc etc Looks good, btw, I like the style. But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday. /Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
* Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D
Public Name is supposed to be how the person's info is show to the world, not necessarily the actual first/last name. Also it would make sense to show how the person's info will be shown on the badge, for example I would like my badge to say: Stella Rouzi differentreality (Here maybe affiliation or "Attendee" or "Oraganizer" etc) Other than that, I guess we should add a nickname box too.
* where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference
We still have not decided on the food options, but we have a couple. There is already a drop down list for that in the registration page, and an input box. INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has. (These options are in the registration-to-event page. So that the choices are conference-specific. I am clarifying this because I think you only saw the sign-up fields?)
** joining party or not
Isn't that the "social events"? Even though I kind of take this for granted, that attendees will join us in the partys/social events and if they come with their partner, their partner will probably join too. So we will count registered attendees + partners (there is a check box for that "attending with partner").
** what days will you be there Yes, makes sense to have sth like that to check if all people are interested in attending all days.
** do you use conference hotel or not that's the affiliated lodging. Again in registration form (not sign up).
** join mailing list or not
That's for the visitors ML right? Like the option we had last year?
** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
Any other ideas? :)
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) wrote:
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
I don't, actually. Jos, what do you mean?
INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
The nice thing about having the dropdown is you can easily generate a list of people who are Vegetarian, if food is being provided. A text field might have "no meat" or "only vegetables" or something. Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Matt Barringer <matt@incoherent.de> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) wrote:
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
I don't, actually. Jos, what do you mean?
INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
The nice thing about having the dropdown is you can easily generate a list of people who are Vegetarian, if food is being provided. A text field might have "no meat" or "only vegetables" or something.
Got it, right!
Matt
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On Thursday 07 February 2013 13:34:20 Matt Barringer wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) wrote:
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
I don't, actually. Jos, what do you mean?
Logging in is very prominent, despite the fact that 90% of the time you're only there to register. I would skip this page entirely, just go to registration immediately and have a 'already have an account? login here' thing on the page. Not a huge thing, just optimizing the workflow for the most common case ;-)
INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
The nice thing about having the dropdown is you can easily generate a list of people who are Vegetarian, if food is being provided. A text field might have "no meat" or "only vegetables" or something.
Yeah, we should maybe give a 'other' option but try to put as much as reasonable in the drop-down.
Matt
On Thursday 07 February 2013 13:06:55 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
* Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D Public Name is supposed to be how the person's info is show to the world, not necessarily the actual first/last name.
Also it would make sense to show how the person's info will be shown on the badge, for example I would like my badge to say: Stella Rouzi differentreality (Here maybe affiliation or "Attendee" or "Oraganizer" etc)
Other than that, I guess we should add a nickname box too.
* where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference
We still have not decided on the food options, but we have a couple.
There is already a drop down list for that in the registration page, and an input box. INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
(These options are in the registration-to-event page. So that the choices are conference-specific. I am clarifying this because I think you only saw the sign-up fields?)
** joining party or not
Isn't that the "social events"? Even though I kind of take this for granted, that attendees will join us in the partys/social events and if they come with their partner, their partner will probably join too.
So, you're going to plan a party where there will be between 50 and 500 people? Good luck finding a location that will give you an estimate of the costs. Having no idea how many people will come makes it really hard to plan things. Your budget depends on it too, but also things like how much stuff you have at the registration table (bags with goodies and such). At oSC we had hundreds of people register the last week - and bags had to be printed at latest 2 weeks before, we didn't have enough geeko's etcetera. If you want to prevent being stuck with a waste of 200 conference bags+content too many you can't over-stock so you need people to register in time. I really recommend to close registration 2 weeks in advance and make very clear that yes, you can register after that, but that means NO food, NO bag and NO party. We'll be a little nicer on the spot but that's what we should communicate. Really, if people can't even be bothered to register, why would WE bother doing so much work for them?
So we will count registered attendees + partners (there is a check box for that "attending with partner").
** what days will you be there
Yes, makes sense to have sth like that to check if all people are interested in attending all days.
Very useful to know for the opening party - again, will there be 30 or 300 people?
** do you use conference hotel or not
that's the affiliated lodging. Again in registration form (not sign up).
ok....
** join mailing list or not
That's for the visitors ML right? Like the option we had last year?
Yes. I understand we legally have to ask them, at least in some countries you have to ask this. So do so. Say something like "we very strongly urge you to register for the visitors mailing list" or so. I advocated last year to have two mailing lists: one for announcements (mandatory sign-up) and one for visitors, but I believe this was considered 'too complicated' so I send mails to individual people via a (very complicated) setup in a special mail client on my laptop. I'd like to suggest having two ml's again...
** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
Any other ideas? :)
Pfff, I would have a look at what we had last year if that is still up. This is really worth some thinking. We asked last year why people where coming (what event are you for - LD, SL, oSC, Gentoo). Not relevant now, I think. We could ask country of origin, but that's mostly because I'm curious about that. (where are you from? Greece, Germany, blablabla) I'd also love to hear if they're openSUSE people, users, contributors, or from other distro's and projects by the way ;-) But you really need to sit down and think about the things you're going to organize for the visitors: - how do we do lunch? If we organize something, we MUST know how many people will be there, so we have to ask that. - how do we do dinner? same! - be sure to ask about BOTH parties (registration party and the 'big' party) - ask for disabilities and such we have to make provisions for (don't know how it is in Greece but in many countries the conference is responsible for providing facilities for disabled people. In the US, we'd have to get sign language people for deaf people, for example. That is EXTREMELY expensive so you need to know this). I'm sure there is more, just not things I can think off from here... /J
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Thursday 07 February 2013 13:06:55 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
* Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D Public Name is supposed to be how the person's info is show to the world, not necessarily the actual first/last name.
Also it would make sense to show how the person's info will be shown on the badge, for example I would like my badge to say: Stella Rouzi differentreality (Here maybe affiliation or "Attendee" or "Oraganizer" etc)
Other than that, I guess we should add a nickname box too.
* where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference
We still have not decided on the food options, but we have a couple.
There is already a drop down list for that in the registration page, and an input box. INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
(These options are in the registration-to-event page. So that the choices are conference-specific. I am clarifying this because I think you only saw the sign-up fields?)
** joining party or not
Isn't that the "social events"? Even though I kind of take this for granted, that attendees will join us in the partys/social events and if they come with their partner, their partner will probably join too.
So, you're going to plan a party where there will be between 50 and 500 people? Good luck finding a location that will give you an estimate of the costs.
Having no idea how many people will come makes it really hard to plan things. Your budget depends on it too, but also things like how much stuff you have at the registration table (bags with goodies and such). At oSC we had hundreds of people register the last week - and bags had to be printed at latest 2 weeks before, we didn't have enough geeko's etcetera. If you want to prevent being stuck with a waste of 200 conference bags+content too many you can't over-stock so you need people to register in time.
I am sorry if people got the wrong idea about this. Noone ever said or implied that we don't want to know in advance how many people will be attending osc13. It's one of the very obviously necessary things we need and one of the main reasons we have registration after all, is it not? In fact, I recently noticed that even though from admin panel we are able to see who is registered, we don't have a count (not an automatic one at least) and I have already added that task on trello. What I said in my previous email is that this year, that we won't have so many conferences in one like osc12, it will be more like an 'us' conference, sth like Nuremberg is what I have in mind. And our goal is to keep people together and do stuff together and get things done all together. So what I really meant is that probably all, or really most, of attendees will also attend all our social events as well. However we already have one check box asking about that (that's in the registration page and reads "Attending Social Events"). The checkbox is in fact pre-selected, maybe we don't want that. Obviously there are some strong disagreements with my point of view about attendance in social events in osc13 and the need to add special boxes for every social event is requested.
I really recommend to close registration 2 weeks in advance and make very clear that yes, you can register after that, but that means NO food, NO bag and NO party. We'll be a little nicer on the spot but that's what we should communicate.
That's reasonable I believe. So I'll add it as a task "Close Registration" in the Program board at 4 July (?), so that we keep in mind :)
Really, if people can't even be bothered to register, why would WE bother doing so much work for them?
So we will count registered attendees + partners (there is a check box for that "attending with partner").
** what days will you be there
Yes, makes sense to have sth like that to check if all people are interested in attending all days.
Very useful to know for the opening party - again, will there be 30 or 300 people?
As I wrote before, we already have a box asking about arrival and departure date. We could extract that information from there already too. But if I understand correctly, your point is that we add 2-3 different checkboxes according to the number of specific social events that we will have. Is that right?
** do you use conference hotel or not
that's the affiliated lodging. Again in registration form (not sign up).
ok....
** join mailing list or not
That's for the visitors ML right? Like the option we had last year?
Yes. I understand we legally have to ask them, at least in some countries you have to ask this. So do so.
Say something like "we very strongly urge you to register for the visitors mailing list" or so. I advocated last year to have two mailing lists: one for announcements (mandatory sign-up) and one for visitors, but I believe this was considered 'too complicated' so I send mails to individual people via a (very complicated) setup in a special mail client on my laptop. I'd like to suggest having two ml's again...
Task added (card is named Registration Page additions) for a checkbox asking if people want to get subscribed to conference ML. Feel free to take a look at the relevant task in case you want to propose alternative phrasing for the sub-tasks or sth. Also about those who do not want to be subscribed in the ML, can't we just extract their email addresses from the registrations and bcc them in a new email? I can only assume this was what you were doing last year, but probably I am missing the key point there that made things so difficult. For the future, would we need to add an option in admin panel where you can put the text of the email and by hitting send button, for this text to be sent via email to all people registered to this conference (regardless of ML or not)?
** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
Any other ideas? :)
Pfff, I would have a look at what we had last year if that is still up. This is really worth some thinking. We asked last year why people where coming (what event are you for - LD, SL, oSC, Gentoo). Not relevant now, I think.
We could ask country of origin, but that's mostly because I'm curious about that. (where are you from? Greece, Germany, blablabla) I'd also love to hear if they're openSUSE people, users, contributors, or from other distro's and projects by the way ;-)
Yes I had a bunch of such statistic things I would like to ask people, affiliation included. In the end they seemed to be too statistic and would be probably better served in a survey, at least that's the conclusion we came at within the Program Committee. BTW, Alberto Planas is already working on the survey task, going through past surveys and coming up with osc13 survey. So we can put all those statistic thingies in there, I put a comment in the task already.
But you really need to sit down and think about the things you're going to organize for the visitors: - how do we do lunch? If we organize something, we MUST know how many people will be there, so we have to ask that. - how do we do dinner? same! - be sure to ask about BOTH parties (registration party and the 'big' party)
There is already a card for the Food task on trello. Feel free to add your ideas about it. We haven't picked that up yet, as there are more pressing issued to be dealt with on the local side, but our options are pretty much the following (I am pretty sure Kostas has mentioned these things somewhere, probably January's conf irc meeting): 1. Have cafeteria working through conference (to offer coffee/soft drinks and probably some snacks/sandwiches). This is to be paid by attendees obviously. 2. Have catering (paid by conference) to cover coffee/soft drinks, maybe cake/biscuits, cold sandwiches. 3. Have catering (paid by conference) to offer hot meals for lunch (this will be quite expensive though and if I had to choose I would go for the following option). But we will get a quote from catering company anyway. 4. Arrange for barbecue after conference (as in dinner I guess, can be paid by conference, or we can do Jos system of Nuremberg, which is have everybody pay 5 euro and eat whatever they want). It would be nice to have this one day - I estimate this to cost around 3000 euro (having plenty of food available for everybody). On a sidenote: at least once people have to try greek giros for dinner. So that's one dinner off, one day we could do the barbecue which I think is awesome, one day we have the party (not sure what will happen in terms of food there yet). One day we can easily let people just explore greek cuisine and just make suggestions of places and food they should try and smaller groups can navigate around the city and try things.
- ask for disabilities and such we have to make provisions for (don't know how it is in Greece but in many countries the conference is responsible for providing facilities for disabled people. In the US, we'd have to get sign language people for deaf people, for example. That is EXTREMELY expensive so you need to know this).
Ok, that's important. First of all, the venue has provisions for access to people in a wheelchair (there is a special ramp to enter the venue and elevator for the 1rst floor, everything else is flat - ok except for the amfitheater, but that's obvious) and also special toilet as well. Now I am pretty sure there is no law making us have sign language interpreters but if needed I think it would be sth awesome to have. It is indeed quite expensive, however, I have recently learned that they are obliged by law, like lawyers, to do pro-bono work too. In addition to that, we need to get sign language for english - not greek (because I only have contacts, from past communication I had with them, for the greek association of deaf people and I am not sure they can do the english thing). How would you like to approach this? If we openly ask in registration if there is need for sign language, then it's like we are saying we will have it, I guess. On the other hand, how can we even know if we need to have it. And we might in fact find someone to do this pro-bono - obviously not for the entire conference but for some specific presentations. Also this is something we can add post-conference to our videos. Besides deaf people cannot really attend many talks, since it is very tiring to watch the sign language for so long. But if we add on a video, they can watch the video anytime they want later on. In any case, how should we ask this politely in the registration page? "Do you have any special needs (using a wheelchair, ... ) ?"
I'm sure there is more, just not things I can think off from here...
/J
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
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Hello, https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/accounts/password/edit On the above page (reset password), after the button "Change My Password" there are two more buttons. 1)Sign In 2)Sign Up I think that we should remove those buttons from the reset password page. What do you think? Regards, Antonis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 February 2013 16:23:43 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Thursday 07 February 2013 13:06:55 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
* Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that
:D
Public Name is supposed to be how the person's info is show to the world, not necessarily the actual first/last name.
Also it would make sense to show how the person's info will be shown on the badge, for example I would like my badge to say: Stella Rouzi differentreality (Here maybe affiliation or "Attendee" or "Oraganizer" etc)
Other than that, I guess we should add a nickname box too.
* where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference
We still have not decided on the food options, but we have a couple.
There is already a drop down list for that in the registration page, and an input box. INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
(These options are in the registration-to-event page. So that the choices are conference-specific. I am clarifying this because I think you only saw the sign-up fields?)
** joining party or not
Isn't that the "social events"? Even though I kind of take this for granted, that attendees will join us in the partys/social events and if they come with their partner, their partner will probably join too.
So, you're going to plan a party where there will be between 50 and 500 people? Good luck finding a location that will give you an estimate of the costs.
Having no idea how many people will come makes it really hard to plan things. Your budget depends on it too, but also things like how much stuff you have at the registration table (bags with goodies and such). At oSC we had hundreds of people register the last week - and bags had to be printed at latest 2 weeks before, we didn't have enough geeko's etcetera. If you want to prevent being stuck with a waste of 200 conference bags+content too many you can't over-stock so you need people to register in time. I am sorry if people got the wrong idea about this. Noone ever said or implied that we don't want to know in advance how many people will be attending osc13. It's one of the very obviously necessary things we need and one of the main reasons we have registration after all, is it not?
Yes, I just wanted to hammer that point in a bit, sorry.
In fact, I recently noticed that even though from admin panel we are able to see who is registered, we don't have a count (not an automatic one at least) and I have already added that task on trello.
What I said in my previous email is that this year, that we won't have so many conferences in one like osc12, it will be more like an 'us' conference, sth like Nuremberg is what I have in mind. And our goal is to keep people together and do stuff together and get things done all together. So what I really meant is that probably all, or really most, of attendees will also attend all our social events as well. However we already have one check box asking about that (that's in the registration page and reads "Attending Social Events"). The checkbox is in fact pre-selected, maybe we don't want that.
That is not a bad assumption. And in the end, thechallenge is usual that people sign up late, not that they don't show up for the party...
Obviously there are some strong disagreements with my point of view about attendance in social events in osc13 and the need to add special boxes for every social event is requested.
I would add it anyway, yes. This allows you to negotiate a deal for say 200 people, then IF more than 200 people sign up those too late will simply not be able to go. Changing party requirements the last minute is difficult, sometimes impossible. And having a party for 300 where only 150 people show up is very expensive. So we have to decide at some point on how many people we count. 200 is probably not a bad estimation, btw. IF this is asked and if it is made clear that those who sign up late might not be able to go to the social event(s), it will hopefully help create an impression that signing up in time actually helps.
I really recommend to close registration 2 weeks in advance and make very clear that yes, you can register after that, but that means NO food, NO bag and NO party. We'll be a little nicer on the spot but that's what we should communicate.
That's reasonable I believe. So I'll add it as a task "Close Registration" in the Program board at 4 July (?), so that we keep in mind :)
Should also be communicated... I'll review the announcement for this but we have to keep it in mind in future communication too.
Really, if people can't even be bothered to register, why would WE bother doing so much work for them?
So we will count registered attendees + partners (there is a check box for that "attending with partner").
** what days will you be there
Yes, makes sense to have sth like that to check if all people are interested in attending all days.
Very useful to know for the opening party - again, will there be 30 or 300 people?
As I wrote before, we already have a box asking about arrival and departure date. We could extract that information from there already too.
Ok, that is fine.
But if I understand correctly, your point is that we add 2-3 different checkboxes according to the number of specific social events that we will have. Is that right?
Yeah, I would do that. It helps our planning and helps create the impression that early registration matters.
** do you use conference hotel or not
that's the affiliated lodging. Again in registration form (not sign up).
ok....
** join mailing list or not
That's for the visitors ML right? Like the option we had last year?
Yes. I understand we legally have to ask them, at least in some countries you have to ask this. So do so.
Say something like "we very strongly urge you to register for the visitors mailing list" or so. I advocated last year to have two mailing lists: one for announcements (mandatory sign-up) and one for visitors, but I believe this was considered 'too complicated' so I send mails to individual people via a (very complicated) setup in a special mail client on my laptop. I'd like to suggest having two ml's again...
Task added (card is named Registration Page additions) for a checkbox asking if people want to get subscribed to conference ML.
Feel free to take a look at the relevant task in case you want to propose alternative phrasing for the sub-tasks or sth.
Also about those who do not want to be subscribed in the ML, can't we just extract their email addresses from the registrations and bcc them in a new email? I can only assume this was what you were doing last year, but probably I am missing the key point there that made things so difficult.
Ever tried to send a mail with 200 addresses in BCC? does not work. Spam filters and such filter it out, IF the mail server even bothers to try sending it. What you need to do is send every one of these people a direct, personal mail. There are tools for that (which I used last year) but it is FAR easier to have a mailing list or something in the web interface.
For the future, would we need to add an option in admin panel where you can put the text of the email and by hitting send button, for this text to be sent via email to all people registered to this conference (regardless of ML or not)?
** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
Any other ideas? :)
Pfff, I would have a look at what we had last year if that is still up. This is really worth some thinking. We asked last year why people where coming (what event are you for - LD, SL, oSC, Gentoo). Not relevant now, I think.
We could ask country of origin, but that's mostly because I'm curious about that. (where are you from? Greece, Germany, blablabla) I'd also love to hear if they're openSUSE people, users, contributors, or from other distro's and projects by the way ;-)
Yes I had a bunch of such statistic things I would like to ask people, affiliation included. In the end they seemed to be too statistic and would be probably better served in a survey, at least that's the conclusion we came at within the Program Committee. BTW, Alberto Planas is already working on the survey task, going through past surveys and coming up with osc13 survey.
So we can put all those statistic thingies in there, I put a comment in the task already.
Ok.
But you really need to sit down and think about the things you're going to organize for the visitors: - how do we do lunch? If we organize something, we MUST know how many people will be there, so we have to ask that. - how do we do dinner? same! - be sure to ask about BOTH parties (registration party and the 'big' party) There is already a card for the Food task on trello. Feel free to add your ideas about it. We haven't picked that up yet, as there are more pressing issued to be dealt with on the local side, but our options are pretty much the following (I am pretty sure Kostas has mentioned these things somewhere, probably January's conf irc meeting):
1. Have cafeteria working through conference (to offer coffee/soft drinks and probably some snacks/sandwiches). This is to be paid by attendees obviously.
2. Have catering (paid by conference) to cover coffee/soft drinks, maybe cake/biscuits, cold sandwiches.
3. Have catering (paid by conference) to offer hot meals for lunch (this will be quite expensive though and if I had to choose I would go for the following option). But we will get a quote from catering company anyway.
4. Arrange for barbecue after conference (as in dinner I guess, can be paid by conference, or we can do Jos system of Nuremberg, which is have everybody pay 5 euro and eat whatever they want). It would be nice to have this one day - I estimate this to cost around 3000 euro (having plenty of food available for everybody).
On a sidenote: at least once people have to try greek giros for dinner. So that's one dinner off, one day we could do the barbecue which I think is awesome, one day we have the party (not sure what will happen in terms of food there yet).
One day we can easily let people just explore greek cuisine and just make suggestions of places and food they should try and smaller groups can navigate around the city and try things.
All lovely, I look forward to the event more every day ;-) Just keep in mind that most catering will have a problem if you don't guarantee them X visitors and tell them the maximum. Again, that brings us back to "we need ppl to register in time". As usual :D
- ask for disabilities and such we have to make provisions for (don't know how it is in Greece but in many countries the conference is responsible for providing facilities for disabled people. In the US, we'd have to get sign language people for deaf people, for example. That is EXTREMELY expensive so you need to know this).
Ok, that's important. First of all, the venue has provisions for access to people in a wheelchair (there is a special ramp to enter the venue and elevator for the 1rst floor, everything else is flat - ok except for the amfitheater, but that's obvious) and also special toilet as well.
Now I am pretty sure there is no law making us have sign language interpreters but if needed I think it would be sth awesome to have. It is indeed quite expensive, however, I have recently learned that they are obliged by law, like lawyers, to do pro-bono work too. In addition to that, we need to get sign language for english - not greek (because I only have contacts, from past communication I had with them, for the greek association of deaf people and I am not sure they can do the english thing).
Worse, sign language is country-specific like normal language. A Spanish person needs a Spanish sign language interpreter.
How would you like to approach this? If we openly ask in registration if there is need for sign language, then it's like we are saying we will have it, I guess. On the other hand, how can we even know if we need to have it. And we might in fact find someone to do this pro-bono - obviously not for the entire conference but for some specific presentations. Also this is something we can add post-conference to our videos. Besides deaf people cannot really attend many talks, since it is very tiring to watch the sign language for so long. But if we add on a video, they can watch the video anytime they want later on.
Video can have subtitles, that's something we can consider doing (not easy).
In any case, how should we ask this politely in the registration page? "Do you have any special needs (using a wheelchair, ... ) ?"
Yes, we should ask for 'special needs', just an open text box. Let people fill in what they need, we can then contact them and work things out if needed. /J
I'm sure there is more, just not things I can think off from here...
/J
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Sunday 10 February 2013 16:23:43 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Thursday 07 February 2013 13:06:55 Stella Rouzi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something...
I am not sure I understand what you mean but hopefully Matt does.
* Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that
:D
Public Name is supposed to be how the person's info is show to the world, not necessarily the actual first/last name.
Also it would make sense to show how the person's info will be shown on the badge, for example I would like my badge to say: Stella Rouzi differentreality (Here maybe affiliation or "Attendee" or "Oraganizer" etc)
Other than that, I guess we should add a nickname box too.
* where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference
We still have not decided on the food options, but we have a couple.
There is already a drop down list for that in the registration page, and an input box. INMHO maybe we should just use the input box and the person can write whatever food preference/restriction he/she has.
(These options are in the registration-to-event page. So that the choices are conference-specific. I am clarifying this because I think you only saw the sign-up fields?)
** joining party or not
Isn't that the "social events"? Even though I kind of take this for granted, that attendees will join us in the partys/social events and if they come with their partner, their partner will probably join too.
So, you're going to plan a party where there will be between 50 and 500 people? Good luck finding a location that will give you an estimate of the costs.
Having no idea how many people will come makes it really hard to plan things. Your budget depends on it too, but also things like how much stuff you have at the registration table (bags with goodies and such). At oSC we had hundreds of people register the last week - and bags had to be printed at latest 2 weeks before, we didn't have enough geeko's etcetera. If you want to prevent being stuck with a waste of 200 conference bags+content too many you can't over-stock so you need people to register in time. I am sorry if people got the wrong idea about this. Noone ever said or implied that we don't want to know in advance how many people will be attending osc13. It's one of the very obviously necessary things we need and one of the main reasons we have registration after all, is it not?
Yes, I just wanted to hammer that point in a bit, sorry.
In fact, I recently noticed that even though from admin panel we are able to see who is registered, we don't have a count (not an automatic one at least) and I have already added that task on trello.
What I said in my previous email is that this year, that we won't have so many conferences in one like osc12, it will be more like an 'us' conference, sth like Nuremberg is what I have in mind. And our goal is to keep people together and do stuff together and get things done all together. So what I really meant is that probably all, or really most, of attendees will also attend all our social events as well. However we already have one check box asking about that (that's in the registration page and reads "Attending Social Events"). The checkbox is in fact pre-selected, maybe we don't want that.
That is not a bad assumption. And in the end, thechallenge is usual that people sign up late, not that they don't show up for the party...
Obviously there are some strong disagreements with my point of view about attendance in social events in osc13 and the need to add special boxes for every social event is requested.
I would add it anyway, yes. This allows you to negotiate a deal for say 200 people, then IF more than 200 people sign up those too late will simply not be able to go. Changing party requirements the last minute is difficult, sometimes impossible. And having a party for 300 where only 150 people show up is very expensive.
So we have to decide at some point on how many people we count. 200 is probably not a bad estimation, btw.
IF this is asked and if it is made clear that those who sign up late might not be able to go to the social event(s), it will hopefully help create an impression that signing up in time actually helps.
I really recommend to close registration 2 weeks in advance and make very clear that yes, you can register after that, but that means NO food, NO bag and NO party. We'll be a little nicer on the spot but that's what we should communicate.
That's reasonable I believe. So I'll add it as a task "Close Registration" in the Program board at 4 July (?), so that we keep in mind :)
Should also be communicated... I'll review the announcement for this but we have to keep it in mind in future communication too.
Really, if people can't even be bothered to register, why would WE bother doing so much work for them?
So we will count registered attendees + partners (there is a check box for that "attending with partner").
** what days will you be there
Yes, makes sense to have sth like that to check if all people are interested in attending all days.
Very useful to know for the opening party - again, will there be 30 or 300 people?
As I wrote before, we already have a box asking about arrival and departure date. We could extract that information from there already too.
Ok, that is fine.
But if I understand correctly, your point is that we add 2-3 different checkboxes according to the number of specific social events that we will have. Is that right?
Yeah, I would do that. It helps our planning and helps create the impression that early registration matters.
** do you use conference hotel or not
that's the affiliated lodging. Again in registration form (not sign up).
ok....
** join mailing list or not
That's for the visitors ML right? Like the option we had last year?
Yes. I understand we legally have to ask them, at least in some countries you have to ask this. So do so.
Say something like "we very strongly urge you to register for the visitors mailing list" or so. I advocated last year to have two mailing lists: one for announcements (mandatory sign-up) and one for visitors, but I believe this was considered 'too complicated' so I send mails to individual people via a (very complicated) setup in a special mail client on my laptop. I'd like to suggest having two ml's again...
Task added (card is named Registration Page additions) for a checkbox asking if people want to get subscribed to conference ML.
Feel free to take a look at the relevant task in case you want to propose alternative phrasing for the sub-tasks or sth.
Also about those who do not want to be subscribed in the ML, can't we just extract their email addresses from the registrations and bcc them in a new email? I can only assume this was what you were doing last year, but probably I am missing the key point there that made things so difficult.
Ever tried to send a mail with 200 addresses in BCC? does not work. Spam filters and such filter it out, IF the mail server even bothers to try sending it. What you need to do is send every one of these people a direct, personal mail. There are tools for that (which I used last year) but it is FAR easier to have a mailing list or something in the web interface.
You are right :/
For the future, would we need to add an option in admin panel where you can put the text of the email and by hitting send button, for this text to be sent via email to all people registered to this conference (regardless of ML or not)?
** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
Any other ideas? :)
Pfff, I would have a look at what we had last year if that is still up. This is really worth some thinking. We asked last year why people where coming (what event are you for - LD, SL, oSC, Gentoo). Not relevant now, I think.
We could ask country of origin, but that's mostly because I'm curious about that. (where are you from? Greece, Germany, blablabla) I'd also love to hear if they're openSUSE people, users, contributors, or from other distro's and projects by the way ;-)
Yes I had a bunch of such statistic things I would like to ask people, affiliation included. In the end they seemed to be too statistic and would be probably better served in a survey, at least that's the conclusion we came at within the Program Committee. BTW, Alberto Planas is already working on the survey task, going through past surveys and coming up with osc13 survey.
So we can put all those statistic thingies in there, I put a comment in the task already.
Ok.
But you really need to sit down and think about the things you're going to organize for the visitors: - how do we do lunch? If we organize something, we MUST know how many people will be there, so we have to ask that. - how do we do dinner? same! - be sure to ask about BOTH parties (registration party and the 'big' party) There is already a card for the Food task on trello. Feel free to add your ideas about it. We haven't picked that up yet, as there are more pressing issued to be dealt with on the local side, but our options are pretty much the following (I am pretty sure Kostas has mentioned these things somewhere, probably January's conf irc meeting):
1. Have cafeteria working through conference (to offer coffee/soft drinks and probably some snacks/sandwiches). This is to be paid by attendees obviously.
2. Have catering (paid by conference) to cover coffee/soft drinks, maybe cake/biscuits, cold sandwiches.
3. Have catering (paid by conference) to offer hot meals for lunch (this will be quite expensive though and if I had to choose I would go for the following option). But we will get a quote from catering company anyway.
4. Arrange for barbecue after conference (as in dinner I guess, can be paid by conference, or we can do Jos system of Nuremberg, which is have everybody pay 5 euro and eat whatever they want). It would be nice to have this one day - I estimate this to cost around 3000 euro (having plenty of food available for everybody).
On a sidenote: at least once people have to try greek giros for dinner. So that's one dinner off, one day we could do the barbecue which I think is awesome, one day we have the party (not sure what will happen in terms of food there yet).
One day we can easily let people just explore greek cuisine and just make suggestions of places and food they should try and smaller groups can navigate around the city and try things.
All lovely, I look forward to the event more every day ;-)
Just keep in mind that most catering will have a problem if you don't guarantee them X visitors and tell them the maximum. Again, that brings us back to "we need ppl to register in time". As usual :D
- ask for disabilities and such we have to make provisions for (don't know how it is in Greece but in many countries the conference is responsible for providing facilities for disabled people. In the US, we'd have to get sign language people for deaf people, for example. That is EXTREMELY expensive so you need to know this).
Ok, that's important. First of all, the venue has provisions for access to people in a wheelchair (there is a special ramp to enter the venue and elevator for the 1rst floor, everything else is flat - ok except for the amfitheater, but that's obvious) and also special toilet as well.
Now I am pretty sure there is no law making us have sign language interpreters but if needed I think it would be sth awesome to have. It is indeed quite expensive, however, I have recently learned that they are obliged by law, like lawyers, to do pro-bono work too. In addition to that, we need to get sign language for english - not greek (because I only have contacts, from past communication I had with them, for the greek association of deaf people and I am not sure they can do the english thing).
Worse, sign language is country-specific like normal language. A Spanish person needs a Spanish sign language interpreter.
How would you like to approach this? If we openly ask in registration if there is need for sign language, then it's like we are saying we will have it, I guess. On the other hand, how can we even know if we need to have it. And we might in fact find someone to do this pro-bono - obviously not for the entire conference but for some specific presentations. Also this is something we can add post-conference to our videos. Besides deaf people cannot really attend many talks, since it is very tiring to watch the sign language for so long. But if we add on a video, they can watch the video anytime they want later on.
Video can have subtitles, that's something we can consider doing (not easy).
In any case, how should we ask this politely in the registration page? "Do you have any special needs (using a wheelchair, ... ) ?"
Yes, we should ask for 'special needs', just an open text box. Let people fill in what they need, we can then contact them and work things out if needed.
/J
I'm sure there is more, just not things I can think off from here...
/J
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert
There is a comment in trello regarding the mailing list and if we should ask if people want that in the email we send when sb registers. In that case, of course, that means that everyone signs up for him/herself to the ML, but that's the point, that we don't have to hand-check who wants to be in that ML and who doesn't. Having added all new info discussed in the registration page, I think that there is a bit too much and I feel that we could perhaps rearrange to make it look a bit better by moving arrival/departure date higher up, moving down the choices for food and special needs, and I am not sure if we should also put the supporter/professional ticket option a bit further up (before all those checkboxes about attending partys etc). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2013 18:23:23 Stella Rouzi wrote: <snip>
There is a comment in trello regarding the mailing list and if we should ask if people want that in the email we send when sb registers. In that case, of course, that means that everyone signs up for him/herself to the ML, but that's the point, that we don't have to hand-check who wants to be in that ML and who doesn't.
You mean let people register themselves? Many won't bother. We should do it for them - the NOT registering should take work, not the other way around.
Having added all new info discussed in the registration page, I think that there is a bit too much and I feel that we could perhaps rearrange to make it look a bit better by moving arrival/departure date higher up, moving down the choices for food and special needs, and I am not sure if we should also put the supporter/professional ticket option a bit further up (before all those checkboxes about attending partys etc).
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2013 18:23:23 Stella Rouzi wrote: <snip>
There is a comment in trello regarding the mailing list and if we should ask if people want that in the email we send when sb registers. In that case, of course, that means that everyone signs up for him/herself to the ML, but that's the point, that we don't have to hand-check who wants to be in that ML and who doesn't.
You mean let people register themselves? Many won't bother. We should do it for them - the NOT registering should take work, not the other way around.
Having added all new info discussed in the registration page, I think that there is a bit too much and I feel that we could perhaps rearrange to make it look a bit better by moving arrival/departure date higher up, moving down the choices for food and special needs, and I am not sure if we should also put the supporter/professional ticket option a bit further up (before all those checkboxes about attending partys etc).
Hey all, Jos the idea is that later on Matt will implement what you need in osem, so that from there you can send emails to multiple recipients (as in everybody that is registered). That way we don't have to add any more stuff in the registration page, which is already pretty filled up and hopefully it would make your life a bit easier too.l Please let me know if that works for you. Stella -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) <stella.rouzi@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2013 18:23:23 Stella Rouzi wrote: <snip>
There is a comment in trello regarding the mailing list and if we should ask if people want that in the email we send when sb registers. In that case, of course, that means that everyone signs up for him/herself to the ML, but that's the point, that we don't have to hand-check who wants to be in that ML and who doesn't.
You mean let people register themselves? Many won't bother. We should do it for them - the NOT registering should take work, not the other way around.
Having added all new info discussed in the registration page, I think that there is a bit too much and I feel that we could perhaps rearrange to make it look a bit better by moving arrival/departure date higher up, moving down the choices for food and special needs, and I am not sure if we should also put the supporter/professional ticket option a bit further up (before all those checkboxes about attending partys etc).
Hey all,
Jos the idea is that later on Matt will implement what you need in osem, so that from there you can send emails to multiple recipients (as in everybody that is registered).
That way we don't have to add any more stuff in the registration page, which is already pretty filled up and hopefully it would make your life a bit easier too.l
Please let me know if that works for you.
Stella
Hey, @Jos: Any update on the cfp announcement, which is supposed to go out today? Stella -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/accounts/password/edit On the above page (reset password), after the button "Change My Password" there are two more buttons. 1)Sign In 2)Sign Up I think that we should remove those buttons from the reset password page. What do you think? Regards, Antonis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something... * Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D * where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference ** joining party or not ** what days will you be there
That is covered by the choice of arrival/departure day, is it not?
** do you use conference hotel or not ** join mailing list or not ** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all, It seems that the OSEM has some errors right now. Phusion Passenger is complaining and the DEBUG variable is ON in production. ~Pavlos On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Stella Rouzi (differentreality) <stella.rouzi@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:59:48 Robert Schweikert wrote:
Hi all,
Shortly after we got the program committee for oSC13 going a couple of months ago Matt started to work on a new web application for registration and proposal submission.
No one was really happy with Indico and other projects appeared not well maintained or would have required major surgery to get the look and feel as well as functionality we were striving for.
The hard work Matt has put into the project is starting to pay off and I am honored to be able to announce the beta testing period of OSEM. OSEM is up and running at https://conference.opensuse.org/osem , please check out the application and take it for a spin.
Note, that any data you enter will be cleared once we go live with the application. The goal is to open registration and proposal submission no later than next week Wednesday. Thus, please test the application and report bugs/issues directly to Matt at matt@incoherent.de
If the calendar selection for the arrival date is not working for you, that is a known issue.
For those that have time, knowledge and interest, you can submit patches to: https://github.com/mbarringer/osem
Some feedback: * Make registering central instead of login. Move login to a corner or something... * Public name - do you mean "nick name"? If so, please just name it that :D * where is all the other information? Is that yet discussed? We need to have that ready before we let people register... Kostas, Stella and other local people need to tell us some of these (food for example - do we provide that? Then people need to sign up. etc). ** food preference ** joining party or not ** what days will you be there
That is covered by the choice of arrival/departure day, is it not?
** do you use conference hotel or not ** join mailing list or not ** etc etc
Looks good, btw, I like the style.
But if these other things we need in registration are not yet discussed we should delay at least until next week Wednesday.
/Jos
With this, let the testing begin.
Matt, thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.
Later, Robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Pavlos Ratis wrote:
It seems that the OSEM has some errors right now. Phusion Passenger is complaining and the DEBUG variable is ON in production.
Yeah, a gem was upgraded and broke the install. It should be fixed now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
Something is not clear on the site (at least for me). Let's see the scenario... I want to register. I visit the front page https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/ and I click on register button. Next screen is Sign Up. When I finish the Sign up procedure, I consider myself registered. WRONG!!! The truth is that I must go on the front page (https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/) and click on register button again to register. That should be clear on the front page or they should receive an e-mail after sign up saying that they can continue the register procedure. Many people that do it fast (like I did it) won't register themselfs. I hope I made it clear. If not, let me know. Thanks Stathis -- http://about.me/iosifidis http://eiosifidis.blogspot.gr http://blogs.gnome.org/eiosifidis Great leaders don't tell you what to do... They show you how it's done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <iefstathios@gmail.com> wrote:
Something is not clear on the site (at least for me). Let's see the scenario...
I want to register. I visit the front page https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/ and I click on register button. Next screen is Sign Up. When I finish the Sign up procedure, I consider myself registered. WRONG!!!
The truth is that I must go on the front page (https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/) and click on register button again to register. That should be clear on the front page or they should receive an e-mail after sign up saying that they can continue the register procedure. Many people that do it fast (like I did it) won't register themselfs.
I hope I made it clear. If not, let me know. Thanks Stathis
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I have created the trello task for this. I hope Matt can get to it soon as it seems to be confusing for a couple of people and is kinda important. Thanks, Stella -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, I got feedback from people who I helped register. 1. We must add a blinking or red icon saying register now or register here on the http://conference.opensuse.org. Right now it's on the second paragraph saying submit your presentation. Nothing about register at visitor. After 12.3 release, this can go to our central site. 2. As I mentioned before, there should be an explaination about how to register (first sign up and then register). Also before registering, should have some benefits of registration. Then after registration, they must receive an e-mail with some useful links or something. 3. After registering, the system sends a confirmation mail. After confirm, the users can register as visitors. This mail usually go to junk mail (at least to Gmail). I was told that the address-mail must be signed DKIM and SPF (meaning signed IP and domain). 4. Finally, during registration, there can be a radio button asking the visitor if he/she wants to be volunteer. If so, the organizers etc, can contact him/her. Well, if he/she's receives the conference list, this is not an issue. But what if he/she's not? I hope I described well the issues. Stathis -- http://about.me/iosifidis http://eiosifidis.blogspot.gr http://blogs.gnome.org/eiosifidis Great leaders don't tell you what to do... They show you how it's done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <iefstathios@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I got feedback from people who I helped register.
1. We must add a blinking or red icon saying register now or register here on the http://conference.opensuse.org. Right now it's on the second paragraph saying submit your presentation. Nothing about register at visitor. After 12.3 release, this can go to our central site.
2. As I mentioned before, there should be an explaination about how to register (first sign up and then register). Also before registering, should have some benefits of registration. Then after registration, they must receive an e-mail with some useful links or something.
3. After registering, the system sends a confirmation mail. After confirm, the users can register as visitors. This mail usually go to junk mail (at least to Gmail). I was told that the address-mail must be signed DKIM and SPF (meaning signed IP and domain).
Can you further confirm this with more people please? I have not had this problem during testing, neither for registration nor for proposal acceptance. Same is true for a couple of other people that helped me do the testing. Did this occur during testing period too?
4. Finally, during registration, there can be a radio button asking the visitor if he/she wants to be volunteer. If so, the organizers etc, can contact him/her. Well, if he/she's receives the conference list, this is not an issue. But what if he/she's not?
I hope I described well the issues.
Stathis
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Στις 10/03/2013 09:40 πμ, ο/η Stella Rouzi (differentreality) έγραψε:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) <iefstathios@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I got feedback from people who I helped register.
1. We must add a blinking or red icon saying register now or register here on the http://conference.opensuse.org. Right now it's on the second paragraph saying submit your presentation. Nothing about register at visitor. After 12.3 release, this can go to our central site.
2. As I mentioned before, there should be an explaination about how to register (first sign up and then register). Also before registering, should have some benefits of registration. Then after registration, they must receive an e-mail with some useful links or something.
3. After registering, the system sends a confirmation mail. After confirm, the users can register as visitors. This mail usually go to junk mail (at least to Gmail). I was told that the address-mail must be signed DKIM and SPF (meaning signed IP and domain). Can you further confirm this with more people please? I have not had this problem during testing, neither for registration nor for proposal acceptance. Same is true for a couple of other people that helped me do the testing. Did this occur during testing period too?
Stella, another guy asked on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuse.gr/permalink/583755691652004/ It's in Greek. You can understand it. It was on February 24th. It wasn't testing period. Thanks Stathis
4. Finally, during registration, there can be a radio button asking the visitor if he/she wants to be volunteer. If so, the organizers etc, can contact him/her. Well, if he/she's receives the conference list, this is not an issue. But what if he/she's not?
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participants (9)
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Antonis Tsiapaliokas
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differentreality
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Jos Poortvliet
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Kostas Koudaras
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Matt Barringer
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Pavlos Ratis
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Robert Schweikert
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Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)
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Stella Rouzi (differentreality)