[opensuse-cloud] OpenStack Cloud in Interop Lab
Hi All, Just figured I'd let everyone know on this list, that we have been working with OpenStack for the last two months. We currently have a 10 hyperv compute nodes, in an openstack cloud that we are using for LIC testing. We have been in contact with the Director of the Openstack Project, as well as neumerous key contributers. They are aware of us and what we have done in the lab with OpenStack. As of today, our deployment is the largest of it's type in the world. Please feel free to contact me directly if anyone has any additional questions. p -- Peter Pouliot, CISSP Senior Engineer, Microsoft Novell Joint Interoperability Lab ppouliot@novell.com ppouliot@suse.com Office: 857.453.6436 Cell: 781.953.8917 SUSE, Attachmate Group, Inc. SUSE: Supporting Linux since 1992. www.suse.com --- SuSE Linux Enterprise Renew Now www.novell.com/linux/renew.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+help@opensuse.org
Hi Peter, On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 12:18:56PM -0400, Peter J. Pouliot wrote:
Just figured I'd let everyone know on this list, that we have been working with OpenStack for the last two months. We currently have a 10 hyperv compute nodes, in an openstack cloud that we are using for LIC testing.
We have been in contact with the Director of the Openstack Project, as well as neumerous key contributers. They are aware of us and what we have done in the lab with OpenStack.
As of today, our deployment is the largest of it's type in the world.
Please feel free to contact me directly if anyone has any additional questions.
That sounds like an interesting setup indeed. Which packages are you using and what is your cloud controller running? SLES? openSUSE? Bernhard Wiedemann and I have setup a private cloud based on SLES 11 SP1 as well as openSUSE 11.4 here in Nuremberg. We have found and fixed a number of bugs in the process and are about to publish our work to Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack in the openSUSE Build Service. (So far we have used home:cthiel1:openstack for building our packages, which are based on the packages from B1 systems.) We also have two appliances built in SUSE Studio, one cloud controller appliance and a compute node appliances. We might publish those to SUSE Gallery at a later point in time. Best Christoph -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+help@opensuse.org
Hi Christoph, Thanks for getting back to me. Comments are in-line. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:37:29AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Hi Peter,
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 12:18:56PM -0400, Peter J. Pouliot wrote:
Just figured I'd let everyone know on this list, that we have been working with OpenStack for the last two months. We currently have a 10 hyperv compute nodes, in an openstack cloud that we are using for LIC testing.
We have been in contact with the Director of the Openstack Project, as well as neumerous key contributers. They are aware of us and what we have done in the lab with OpenStack.
As of today, our deployment is the largest of it's type in the world.
Please feel free to contact me directly if anyone has any additional questions.
That sounds like an interesting setup indeed. Which packages are you using and what is your cloud controller running? SLES? openSUSE?
The nova controller/network node currently runs on SLES SP1 using the packages from the B1-Systems channel. Nova-network routes out of the cloud network fabric to our other subnets. We do not use the SNAT as they usually do because of issues with compatibility with the SuSE firewalling bits and them not being all that friendly for bridge injection/iptables rules on the network node
Bernhard Wiedemann and I have setup a private cloud based on SLES 11 SP1 as well as openSUSE 11.4 here in Nuremberg. We have found and fixed a number of bugs in the process and are about to publish our work to Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack in the openSUSE Build Service. (So far we have used home:cthiel1:openstack for building our packages, which are based on the packages from B1 systems.)
Our second controller is running on openSUSE 11.4 with the packages from the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack. Greg Haskins (Who assisted B1 Systems with thier packaging) and Patrick Mullaney (Maintainer of the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack channel) who also did a lot of packaging work have been helping us as well. Unfortunately we did try the packages in your channel but had no success with them, and we felt it was more productive to be debugging on what we ship versus downgrading to older versions that were in line with what Ubuntu uses. Our plan is to move to this one once we finish getting it working, because we want to use newer code. We have already been in discussion with Rackspace people to integrate our cloud into thier automated testing for both SuSE and HyperV based compute nodes. Because of this we are probably going to have to setup a Ubuntu controller for our development until our packaging becomes inline with what we ship. However I really don't want to do that. I would love to coordinate efforts so we can advance our packages/development efforts on SLES. It might be a good idea to have a call to help us coordinate efforts. I have also had discussion with openstack core team (although it hasn't seem to have gotten much traction) to potentially use the OBS for all openstack packaging. I have also been involved in architecture discussion, pertaining to adding pxe support to nova, as well as how they should be implementing the new nova-network bits currently under development.
We also have two appliances built in SUSE Studio, one cloud controller appliance and a compute node appliances. We might publish those to SUSE Gallery at a later point in time.
I too started to build a controller appliance in Studio, however I stopped those efforts while waiting for the rest of SuSE to catch up with where we are, and get some organization around packaging. If your appliances work we would definately love to give them a try as well. Cheers, p
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Hi Peter, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:12:31AM -0400, Peter J. Pouliot wrote:
That sounds like an interesting setup indeed. Which packages are you using and what is your cloud controller running? SLES? openSUSE?
The nova controller/network node currently runs on SLES SP1 using the packages from the B1-Systems channel. Nova-network routes out of the cloud network fabric to our other subnets. We do not use the SNAT as they usually do because of issues with compatibility with the SuSE firewalling bits and them not being all that friendly for bridge injection/iptables rules on the network node
As long as you turn off SuSEfirewall2 things should work out just fine. We haven't run into issues with the firewalling yet. Do you have more details on that?
Bernhard Wiedemann and I have setup a private cloud based on SLES 11 SP1 as well as openSUSE 11.4 here in Nuremberg. We have found and fixed a number of bugs in the process and are about to publish our work to Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack in the openSUSE Build Service. (So far we have used home:cthiel1:openstack for building our packages, which are based on the packages from B1 systems.)
Our second controller is running on openSUSE 11.4 with the packages from the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack. Greg Haskins (Who assisted B1 Systems with thier packaging) and Patrick Mullaney (Maintainer of the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack channel) who also did a lot of packaging work have been helping us as well. Unfortunately we did try the packages in your channel but had no success with them, and we felt it was more productive to be debugging on what we ship versus downgrading to older versions that were in line with what Ubuntu uses.
We are in the process of consolidating all packages in Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack -- if you have any issues with any of the packages, please post to this list.
Our plan is to move to this one once we finish getting it working, because we want to use newer code. We have already been in discussion with Rackspace people to integrate our cloud into thier automated testing for both SuSE and HyperV based compute nodes.
Because of this we are probably going to have to setup a Ubuntu controller for our development until our packaging becomes inline with what we ship. However I really don't want to do that. I would love to coordinate efforts so we can advance our packages/development efforts on SLES. It might be a good idea to have a call to help us coordinate efforts.
I'd be happy to support this!
I have also had discussion with openstack core team (although it hasn't seem to have gotten much traction) to potentially use the OBS for all openstack packaging. I have also been involved in architecture discussion, pertaining to adding pxe support to nova, as well as how they should be implementing the new nova-network bits currently under development.
Having all packages in OBS would be nice, indeed :)
We also have two appliances built in SUSE Studio, one cloud controller appliance and a compute node appliances. We might publish those to SUSE Gallery at a later point in time.
I too started to build a controller appliance in Studio, however I stopped those efforts while waiting for the rest of SuSE to catch up with where we are, and get some organization around packaging. If your appliances work we would definately love to give them a try as well.
We are finalizing the appliance to making it available soon. For a nice customer experience, we would need a firstboot workflow to set-up some details, like network and basic OpenStack settings. Right now we have most of those hardcoded into our appliance. Best Christoph -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+help@opensuse.org
We are finalizing the appliance to making it available soon. For a nice customer experience, we would need a firstboot workflow to set-up some details, like network and basic OpenStack settings. Right now we have most of those hardcoded into our appliance.
I am working (almost finished) on something like this for the OpenNebula cloud. If you can wait a couple of day I expect to have the write up done by the end of the week and everything should be published. We can then look for opportunities to share/generalize some of the stuff I've done. I will post links to everything to this list when I am done. Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rschweikert@novell.com rschweikert@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+help@opensuse.org
Hi Christoph, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 05:09:38PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Hi Peter,
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:12:31AM -0400, Peter J. Pouliot wrote:
That sounds like an interesting setup indeed. Which packages are you using and what is your cloud controller running? SLES? openSUSE?
The nova controller/network node currently runs on SLES SP1 using the packages from the B1-Systems channel. Nova-network routes out of the cloud network fabric to our other subnets. We do not use the SNAT as they usually do because of issues with compatibility with the SuSE firewalling bits and them not being all that friendly for bridge injection/iptables rules on the network node
As long as you turn off SuSEfirewall2 things should work out just fine. We haven't run into issues with the firewalling yet. Do you have more details on that?
We originally had issues with the nat rule injection and how susefirewall seemed to be handling it. Quite honestly we actually didn't want to use any nat as we would rather just route, which we ended up doing by just setting the susefirewall to route for us. Apparently If floating ips are used, there should be snat/nat rules injected to map to the inner fabric ip range to make the vm's publically available.
Bernhard Wiedemann and I have setup a private cloud based on SLES 11 SP1 as well as openSUSE 11.4 here in Nuremberg. We have found and fixed a number of bugs in the process and are about to publish our work to Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack in the openSUSE Build Service. (So far we have used home:cthiel1:openstack for building our packages, which are based on the packages from B1 systems.)
Our second controller is running on openSUSE 11.4 with the packages from the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack. Greg Haskins (Who assisted B1 Systems with thier packaging) and Patrick Mullaney (Maintainer of the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack channel) who also did a lot of packaging work have been helping us as well. Unfortunately we did try the packages in your channel but had no success with them, and we felt it was more productive to be debugging on what we ship versus downgrading to older versions that were in line with what Ubuntu uses.
We are in the process of consolidating all packages in Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack -- if you have any issues with any of the packages, please post to this list.
Will do. Should bugs be filed too?
Our plan is to move to this one once we finish getting it working, because we want to use newer code. We have already been in discussion with Rackspace people to integrate our cloud into thier automated testing for both SuSE and HyperV based compute nodes.
Because of this we are probably going to have to setup a Ubuntu controller for our development until our packaging becomes inline with what we ship. However I really don't want to do that. I would love to coordinate efforts so we can advance our packages/development efforts on SLES. It might be a good idea to have a call to help us coordinate efforts.
I'd be happy to support this!
Great! It's probably a matter of picking a time and finding out who should be on the call?
I have also had discussion with openstack core team (although it hasn't seem to have gotten much traction) to potentially use the OBS for all openstack packaging. I have also been involved in architecture discussion, pertaining to adding pxe support to nova, as well as how they should be implementing the new nova-network bits currently under development.
Having all packages in OBS would be nice, indeed :)
I would love to see this as well. I have mentioned it to a bunch of individuals however I'm not quite we'll be able to get the traction we need w/in the Openstack community to push for this.
We also have two appliances built in SUSE Studio, one cloud controller appliance and a compute node appliances. We might publish those to SUSE Gallery at a later point in time.
I too started to build a controller appliance in Studio, however I stopped those efforts while waiting for the rest of SuSE to catch up with where we are, and get some organization around packaging. If your appliances work we would definately love to give them a try as well.
We are finalizing the appliance to making it available soon. For a nice customer experience, we would need a firstboot workflow to set-up some details, like network and basic OpenStack settings. Right now we have most of those hardcoded into our appliance.
Is this something we can help with? Would you like us to dogfood your appliance?
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Hi Peter, On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:52:57PM -0400, Peter J. Pouliot wrote:
Bernhard Wiedemann and I have setup a private cloud based on SLES 11 SP1 as well as openSUSE 11.4 here in Nuremberg. We have found and fixed a number of bugs in the process and are about to publish our work to Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack in the openSUSE Build Service. (So far we have used home:cthiel1:openstack for building our packages, which are based on the packages from B1 systems.)
Our second controller is running on openSUSE 11.4 with the packages from the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack. Greg Haskins (Who assisted B1 Systems with thier packaging) and Patrick Mullaney (Maintainer of the Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack channel) who also did a lot of packaging work have been helping us as well. Unfortunately we did try the packages in your channel but had no success with them, and we felt it was more productive to be debugging on what we ship versus downgrading to older versions that were in line with what Ubuntu uses.
We are in the process of consolidating all packages in Virtualization:Cloud:OpenStack -- if you have any issues with any of the packages, please post to this list.
Will do. Should bugs be filed too?
Sure. Either report bugs to this mailing list or file them at http://bugzilla.novell.com Best Christoph -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-cloud+help@opensuse.org
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