On 31 January 2013 14:25, Guus guus.poort@upcmail.nl wrote:
Do my opensuse friends realise steam is still in beta. Me and others are testing it. But allot cant because there is no official package.
Is this gonna drag on, untill me and many other have switched to a different distro ? (a few already have) This is not a threat, I am seriously concerned.
Valve is beta testing, we need opensuse users, to test too. So they can give feedback to Valve. How are they gonna do this, if they cant install it ?
For years the graphic drivers, are a weak spot on Linux. Thanks to Valve, Amd and nvidia are releasing better drivers.
A few of us, posted on the steam forum, that we wanted opensuse to be supported. Valve listened to us, so they put a link to a repo on their official steam for Linux page. A repo which is not working.
I am not just ranting, I also emailed Valve about this. Valve made a new license, so we are allowed to make a rpm.
It would be shame if opensuse misses out because of this.
Valve is trying hard, and we should help them.
I agree with everything you're saying, but there is a process to go through - ESPECIALLY when legal is concerned. The fact that they have modified their license to allow for redistribution is great, but as it is not open source and the OBS is hosted by SUSE we need to comply with their legal obligations. Yes, it may suck but that's how things are.
Op 31-1-2013 6:55, Andrew Wafaa schreef:
On 30 January 2013 21:51, Guus guus.poort@upcmail.nl wrote:
Hi all
THe steam package can return !
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On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 14:41:28 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
I agree with everything you're saying, but there is a process to go through - ESPECIALLY when legal is concerned. The fact that they have modified their license to allow for redistribution is great, but as it is not open source and the OBS is hosted by SUSE we need to comply with their legal obligations. Yes, it may suck but that's how things are.
I agree Andrew, did you forward this request to legal so they can start evaluating it?
The important thing here is to know _that_ the process of integrating steam again has started, not _when_ it will complete (of course, the sooner, the better) - a few days more now don't matter much if we make it right this time.
Nico
On 31 January 2013 15:14, Nico Kruber nico.kruber@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 14:41:28 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
I agree with everything you're saying, but there is a process to go through - ESPECIALLY when legal is concerned. The fact that they have modified their license to allow for redistribution is great, but as it is not open source and the OBS is hosted by SUSE we need to comply with their legal obligations. Yes, it may suck but that's how things are.
I agree Andrew, did you forward this request to legal so they can start evaluating it?
Sorry, no I haven't. I'm not interested in using Steam, but I understand and appreciate the sentiments of frustration. I was merely advising on the process that needs to be undertaken.
The important thing here is to know _that_ the process of integrating steam again has started, not _when_ it will complete (of course, the sooner, the better) - a few days more now don't matter much if we make it right this time.
I would have thought that the previous maintainer of the package would have updated his package and submitted it for legal review.
Regards,
Andy
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On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 15:19:15 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On 31 January 2013 15:14, Nico Kruber nico.kruber@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 14:41:28 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
I agree with everything you're saying, but there is a process to go through - ESPECIALLY when legal is concerned. The fact that they have modified their license to allow for redistribution is great, but as it is not open source and the OBS is hosted by SUSE we need to comply with their legal obligations. Yes, it may suck but that's how things are.
I agree Andrew, did you forward this request to legal so they can start evaluating it?
Sorry, no I haven't. I'm not interested in using Steam, but I understand and appreciate the sentiments of frustration. I was merely advising on the process that needs to be undertaken.
The important thing here is to know _that_ the process of integrating steam again has started, not _when_ it will complete (of course, the sooner, the better) - a few days more now don't matter much if we make it right this time.
I would have thought that the previous maintainer of the package would have updated his package and submitted it for legal review.
so basically, what he (or any one else who still has the source package) would have to re-create the package in his home project (with deactivated publish) and create an sr to openSUSE:***:NonFree with the hint to the new licensing and thus let the legal team check the package, right?
Nico
Hey,
On 31.01.2013 18:00, Nico Kruber wrote:
so basically, what he (or any one else who still has the source package) would have to re-create the package in his home project (with deactivated publish) and create an sr to openSUSE:***:NonFree with the hint to the new licensing and thus let the legal team check the package, right?
Just submit it. But not from a home but from a devel project (like devel:openSUSE:Factory or Games, get it included first there). Everything else happens automatically :)
Henne
On Thursday 2013-01-31 18:51, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 31.01.2013 18:00, Nico Kruber wrote:
so basically, what he (or any one else who still has the source package) would have to re-create the package in his home project (with deactivated publish) and create an sr to openSUSE:***:NonFree with the hint to the new licensing and thus let the legal team check the package, right?
Just submit it. But not from a home but from a devel project (like devel:openSUSE:Factory or Games, get it included first there). Everything else happens automatically :)
What is the point of devel:openSUSE:Factory, especially since there is a better-suited DP (games) for it?
On Thursday 31 Jan 2013 19:06:03 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Thursday 2013-01-31 18:51, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 31.01.2013 18:00, Nico Kruber wrote:
so basically, what he (or any one else who still has the source package) would have to re-create the package in his home project (with deactivated publish) and create an sr to openSUSE:***:NonFree with the hint to the new licensing and thus let the legal team check the package, right?
Just submit it. But not from a home but from a devel project
but doesn't legal need to check it first before it can get there? -> that was the reason it was removed from the games repo in the first place
(like devel:openSUSE:Factory or Games, get it included first there). Everything else happens automatically :)
What is the point of devel:openSUSE:Factory, especially since there is a better-suited DP (games) for it?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Nico Kruber nico.kruber@gmail.com wrote:
but doesn't legal need to check it first before it can get there? -> that was the reason it was removed from the games repo in the first place
True.
OBS only accepts non-oss package that has already been in openSUSE distribution...all else will get removed because of the blacklist.
So I suggest you cc the license to one of our OBS license diggers or just open a bug report for him/them to review first.
Luckily I know his email which is Ciaran Farrel <cfarrel at suse dot com>.
You're welcome
Marguerite
Hi all
Today I received the new license from Valve in docx format.
Quote: "The new text should be out in the next client release. I've attached a copy of it in this email."
I will forward it to c farrel, and hope we have a repo soon.
We need to help Valve, so they can fix things also for openSUSE. Steam is still beta, and I don't want SUSE to miss out on things. On the steam forum are allot of questions, why SUSE does not have a repo.
Please tell me if I can do something else, to speed this up. Or maybe we can get. from the SUSE legal team, a confirmation that they are working on it. I am a bit worried everybody is waiting for someone else to do something.
Some might not be interested in gaming, but they should know, that Valve already managed to get better graphic drivers released from AMD and Nvidia for Linux. Years of complaining and asking, did not help, but they did listen to Valve. Valve also managed to have AMD put up a forum, for problems and feedback on the drivers.
friendly regards , Guus
Op 31-1-2013 20:58, Marguerite Su schreef:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Nico Kruber nico.kruber@gmail.com wrote:
but doesn't legal need to check it first before it can get there? -> that was the reason it was removed from the games repo in the first place
True.
OBS only accepts non-oss package that has already been in openSUSE distribution...all else will get removed because of the blacklist.
So I suggest you cc the license to one of our OBS license diggers or just open a bug report for him/them to review first.
Luckily I know his email which is Ciaran Farrel <cfarrel at suse dot com>.
You're welcome
Marguerite
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When I try to email c dot farrel or cfarrel this is the reply I get:
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected.
Recipient: c.farrel@suse.com Reason: No such recipient
Guus
Op 31-1-2013 20:58, Marguerite Su schreef:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Nico Kruber nico.kruber@gmail.com wrote:
but doesn't legal need to check it first before it can get there? -> that was the reason it was removed from the games repo in the first place
True.
OBS only accepts non-oss package that has already been in openSUSE distribution...all else will get removed because of the blacklist.
So I suggest you cc the license to one of our OBS license diggers or just open a bug report for him/them to review first.
Luckily I know his email which is Ciaran Farrel <cfarrel at suse dot com>.
You're welcome
Marguerite
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 12:05:03PM +0100, Guus wrote:
When I try to email c dot farrel or cfarrel this is the reply I get:
This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
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Try cfarrell@suse.com
Werner
Op 31-1-2013 15:41, Andrew Wafaa schreef:
On 31 January 2013 14:25, Guus guus.poort@upcmail.nl wrote:
Do my opensuse friends realise steam is still in beta. Me and others are testing it. But allot cant because there is no official package.
Is this gonna drag on, untill me and many other have switched to a different distro ? (a few already have) This is not a threat, I am seriously concerned.
Valve is beta testing, we need opensuse users, to test too. So they can give feedback to Valve. How are they gonna do this, if they cant install it ?
For years the graphic drivers, are a weak spot on Linux. Thanks to Valve, Amd and nvidia are releasing better drivers.
A few of us, posted on the steam forum, that we wanted opensuse to be supported. Valve listened to us, so they put a link to a repo on their official steam for Linux page. A repo which is not working.
I am not just ranting, I also emailed Valve about this. Valve made a new license, so we are allowed to make a rpm.
It would be shame if opensuse misses out because of this.
Valve is trying hard, and we should help them.
I agree with everything you're saying, but there is a process to go through - ESPECIALLY when legal is concerned. The fact that they have modified their license to allow for redistribution is great, but as it is not open source and the OBS is hosted by SUSE we need to comply with their legal obligations. Yes, it may suck but that's how things are.
Op 31-1-2013 6:55, Andrew Wafaa schreef:
On 30 January 2013 21:51, Guus guus.poort@upcmail.nl wrote:
Hi all
THe steam package can return !
Guus
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Op 31-1-2013 15:41, Andrew Wafaa schreef:
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On Thursday 2013-01-31 20:25, Guus wrote:
Op 31-1-2013 15:41, Andrew Wafaa schreef:
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Why do people always hit submit without writing any text?
And *why* do they nearly always quote the *entire* msg?
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Why do people always hit submit without writing any text?
And *why* do they nearly always quote the *entire* msg?
That's just a logical consequence of hitting Reply followed by Send.
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