[opensuse-buildservice] devel:languages:smalltalk dead?
Hi, while looking for a recent scratch http://scratch.mit.edu/ in opensuse I found that there are different versions of squeak running around in X11:Sugar and devel:languages:smalltalk. The latter project seems not to have seen any updates for almost three years, so I decided to submit all of my changes to Education (where scratch lives). Is there any smalltalker who wants to revive it or is it better to have it all in Education? Best regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Matwey V. Kornilov <matwey.kornilov@gmail.com>:
Well, I don't feel qualified, installing and packaging scratch was my first (conscious) contact with smalltalk, I did not write a single program (yet). I would prefer adding it to education because it is used at least by some educational packages and this is quite a vivid project so it might get more attention there. Regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Michael Behrisch <behrisch@users.sourceforge.net>:
And, I forgot to mention, there already is a Squeak aggregated into Education https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=Squeak&project=Education which is in a miserable state (showing successful builds without having binaries?!). Regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/25/2013 10:01 PM, Michael Behrisch wrote:
But it is a language which is used also for educational purposes. In my opinion devel:languages:smalltalk is the correct place. If education repo users want to use it they can link it from d:l:s and continue pushing SRs to d:l:s Also discussing the topic in packaging or in factory could bring more opinions as well. Have a nice weekend Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Togan Muftuoglu <toganm@opensuse.org>:
To be honest, I don't want to subscribe to two more voluminous mailing lists ;-) I think the people in charge of d:l:s should be reading here (which is not factory or packaging). I put opensuse-edu in CC, maybe someone there has an opinion as well. Furthermore my SRs to Education got accepted now so for the casual user the situation when doing the software search might be more confusing now. I would still prefer d:s:l to be deleted since there is no active maintainer. Best regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Michael On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:34:49 +0100 Michael Behrisch wrote:
Well, the only ones listed as maintainers for devel:languages:smalltalk are Stefan and myself. I know that I did just very small work there - but also got no submit-requests for packages in this repo since a long time. And if you compare who reviewed your submit-requests for the Education repo, you might notice that I do reviews for all the projects I'm involved in once I notice a request. But as I am not a fan of thousands of repositories, I'm fine with deleting the devel:languages:smalltalk repo and using the Education repo instead. If Stefan has no objections, I will do this on Friday, 2013-03-15. Just for reference my idea for all those "devel-Repos" is more like: * we might need devel repos to keep the packages affecting each other together in one specified repo to see very fast if something breaks (I call it openSUSE:Factory - but we currently have just a limited set of "maintainers" there) * we might have dedicated repos for new/patched/whatever packages that introduce incompatibilities to the current set (the main argument for me to have different devel-repos) * we might try to reduce the overall amount of repos wherever possible to make it easier for developers and customers to find "their right package" but that is my personal view and has nothing to do with the current process on OBS. With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Matwey V. Kornilov <matwey.kornilov@gmail.com>:
Well, I don't feel qualified, installing and packaging scratch was my first (conscious) contact with smalltalk, I did not write a single program (yet). I would prefer adding it to education because it is used at least by some educational packages and this is quite a vivid project so it might get more attention there. Regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Michael Behrisch <behrisch@users.sourceforge.net>:
And, I forgot to mention, there already is a Squeak aggregated into Education https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=Squeak&project=Education which is in a miserable state (showing successful builds without having binaries?!). Regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/25/2013 10:01 PM, Michael Behrisch wrote:
But it is a language which is used also for educational purposes. In my opinion devel:languages:smalltalk is the correct place. If education repo users want to use it they can link it from d:l:s and continue pushing SRs to d:l:s Also discussing the topic in packaging or in factory could bring more opinions as well. Have a nice weekend Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
2013/1/25 Togan Muftuoglu <toganm@opensuse.org>:
To be honest, I don't want to subscribe to two more voluminous mailing lists ;-) I think the people in charge of d:l:s should be reading here (which is not factory or packaging). I put opensuse-edu in CC, maybe someone there has an opinion as well. Furthermore my SRs to Education got accepted now so for the casual user the situation when doing the software search might be more confusing now. I would still prefer d:s:l to be deleted since there is no active maintainer. Best regards, Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Michael On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:34:49 +0100 Michael Behrisch wrote:
Well, the only ones listed as maintainers for devel:languages:smalltalk are Stefan and myself. I know that I did just very small work there - but also got no submit-requests for packages in this repo since a long time. And if you compare who reviewed your submit-requests for the Education repo, you might notice that I do reviews for all the projects I'm involved in once I notice a request. But as I am not a fan of thousands of repositories, I'm fine with deleting the devel:languages:smalltalk repo and using the Education repo instead. If Stefan has no objections, I will do this on Friday, 2013-03-15. Just for reference my idea for all those "devel-Repos" is more like: * we might need devel repos to keep the packages affecting each other together in one specified repo to see very fast if something breaks (I call it openSUSE:Factory - but we currently have just a limited set of "maintainers" there) * we might have dedicated repos for new/patched/whatever packages that introduce incompatibilities to the current set (the main argument for me to have different devel-repos) * we might try to reduce the overall amount of repos wherever possible to make it easier for developers and customers to find "their right package" but that is my personal view and has nothing to do with the current process on OBS. With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org
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Lars Vogdt -
Matwey V. Kornilov -
Michael Behrisch -
Togan Muftuoglu