On 18.03.2012 15:45, Martin Seidler wrote:
Am 18.03.2012 00:37, schrieb Thomas Schmidt:
On 16.03.2012 20:44, Martin Seidler wrote:
Dear Thomas, hello list,
I think the revamping is a great idea and I appreciate your work and effort but I think this new search still has it difficulties and problems.
Am 13.03.2012 19:38, schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
* Thomas Schmidt<tom@opensuse.org> [03-13-12 12:07]:
On 12.03.2012 18:26, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Thomas Schmidt<tom@opensuse.org> [03-12-12 11:44]: > Please check the new search at: > http://software.opensuse.org/search/find > and see an example app page here: > http://software.opensuse.org/package/kopete > > Please let me know what you think of the current state. Very nice and everything is presented rather than having to specify looking for other than the main repo's. Perhaps a notice/warning for the unknowing about the stability/experimental characteristics of the not *main* repo's, maybe even a *tagging* of the repo's that are *not* main-line supported?? I added such a warning now, with the option for the user to skip it the next time. Tks, I looked and like the presentation.
I wonder that I do not see "Tumbleweed" ??
I think it is still mixed up with openSUSE 12.1.
Compare: https://features.opensuse.org/310986
And now you could not even guess/see that the packages are really build for Tumbleweed and not for 12.1.
In addition to that you do not see the file names.
So it will be easier for the packages that are already easy to search with the YaST Software Manager.
But for the cases software search would be a help now - an other solution would be needed.
Example (maybe I am wrong?):
Kernel module r8168 (I think it has to be for the right kernel version number, kernel flavor and openSUSE version)
Please make a try to find a fitting one (and especially if there is one) with
http://software.opensuse.org/search/searchresult?q=r8168 against http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=r8168&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.1
for the case on
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-03/msg00765.html
uname -a Linux linux-x9yw 3.1.9-1.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 27 08:55:10 UTC 2012 (efb5ff4) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
The new search may seem easier for me at the beginning as I could better choose the modules fitting to a kernel flavor. But if you do not look at the linked URL I will not be able to see that the kernel version number does not fit.
And before this change it was only puzzling/difficult that the Tumbleweed packages are filed under "openSUSE 12.1" - with the new design it is almost impossible to notice. I guess this would lead to many systems messed up in a wild Tumbleweed/12.1 mixture...
Hi Martin, please check again. I updated the software search page with the latest version, and it shows Tumbleweed as a seperate distro now.
Greetings
Thanks Thomas,
1) The search for openSUSE 12.1 packages with the new front-end/layout seems now really to lead to openSUSE 12.1 and not also to Tumbleweed packages.
I think that is really a big improvement!
2) But as I am not able to see the name of the packages in the search results (unless I use the trick with the URL of the Link) it is still pretty difficult to find a package for the fitting kernel version number like 3.1.9-1.4
I would like to see the information like the name of the file r8168-kmp-desktop-8.027.00_k*3.1.0_1.2-7.1*.x86_64.rpm
without going the way:
http://software.opensuse.org/package/r8168-kmp-desktop?search_term=r8168 (klick, klick, klick, klick, ...) -> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home:TheTiger&package=r8168 -> https://build.opensuse.org/package/binaries?package=r8168&project=home%3ATheTiger&repository=openSUSE_12.1 -> "... r8168-kmp-desktop-8.027.00_k3.1.0_1.2-7.1.x86_64.rpm ... "
Maybe I am not learned enough to understand that kernel module things and I could use kernel modules build for a 3.1.0_1.2-7.1 openSUSE kernel version also for a kernel with a 3.1.9-1.4 version number but I thought things like that would be important.
I can't follow you. You should not need to check any version numbering, just click on the one-click-install link for your distribution and the package management will resolve the dependencies and install your package. For your case Tumbleweed, you probably have installed kernel 3.2.10 from the Tumbleweed repo. Searching for r8168-kmp-desktop will give you the package r8168-kmp-desktop-8.024.00_k3.0.7_45 from the drivers:nic repository. Which is obviously build for an older Kernel version, because it fails to build in the drivers:nic obs project since some time. So I think it won't be installable for you and the package management will detect this. Or am I wrong here? We are in the area of unsupported packages here where the page shows a clear warning that there are risks.
3) In my view it would make sense to switch back to the old/current layout when the results from the sub-project repositories are shown (or at least for the really private home repositories).
In addition to more information about the packages and the package builders this would be a fitting 'warning' - more than (only) that pop-up window.
How should that work to include the old layout search results in the new application page? Could you create graphic that shows what you mean? Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (11.03.1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org